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Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care! — _TJ_ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, TJ, I haven’t had one for about 2 years but may get one this year.  I’ve never had any problems with them so I’m not apprehensive to get one. smiles, Elise

Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care! — _TJ_ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care! — _TJ_ —

I don’t ever get flu shots because the one year I got one, I got a really bad flu. I figured that was a sign and I shouldn’t get them. I never get the flu otherwise (knock wood . Dawn — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi, TJ, I haven’t had one for about 2 years but may get one this year.  I’ve never had any problems with them so I’m not apprehensive to get one. smiles, Elise

I’ll get a flu shot as soon as I can. They make me feel a bit "crappy" for a day or so afterward but it is worth it in my opinion. — Ron P Now a member of the invisible generation — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Is there a problem with the flu and autoimmune disorders? I never heard this. I have Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and vitiligo (harmless one there). I got the flu that year I got a shot (the only shot I’ve ever had) and nothing happened other than I was sick for week or so. That being sick for a week or two doesn’t sound like the flu, it may have been another bug doing the rounds at that time.

A lot of people say they got the flu from a flu shot.  The fact is that you can’t!  You may however develop flu like symptoms, normally much milder than getting the flu. It’s also very possible to get the flu even if you have had the shot, but not *from* the shot.  You can get it if that strain of the flu wasn’t in that years shots, which is partly a guessing game. Tony — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there a problem with the flu and autoimmune disorders? I never heard this. I have Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and vitiligo (harmless one there). I got the flu that year I got a shot (the only shot I’ve ever had) and nothing happened other than I was sick for week or so. That being sick for a week or two doesn’t sound like the flu, it may have been another bug doing the rounds at that time. Last time I had the real flu (not a really bad cold/sinus stuff etc) it lasted 6 weeks before I was fully better. :-/ The card I got (here in .nl) inviting me to get my free flu shot says it’s for those over 65 plus younger folks with heart, lung or kidney disease, diabetes and those with lowered immune systems. If you think you fall into one of those categories you could ask your doc about it? — Vashti

Thanks, Vashti. Actually, I can’t remember exaclty how long I was sick because it was probably four years ago and my memory isn’t too great. I just know I got something bad that lasted longer and was much worse than any cold I’ve ever had. I think I even had a fever, which I never get. It was not fun. I don’t think I fall into those categories. Autoimmune, in my case, does not equal lowered immune system. My immune system is actually pretty good and I don’t get sick much, at least physically. I hope you never get the flu again. That sounds awful! Get your shot, for sure. Love, Dawn — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ::Is there a problem with the flu and autoimmune disorders? I never heard ::this. I have Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and vitiligo (harmless one there). I ::got the flu that year I got a shot (the only shot I’ve ever had) and nothing ::happened other than I was sick for week or so. Dear Dawn, I was rushed when I wrote my reply, but really should have expounded a bit more. Katie takes two immunosuppressive meds (Enbrel and Methotrexate) for her rheumatoid arthritis. It’s the meds more than her arthritis that make her a candidate for the flu shot. Kristen is still quite sick with Grave’s disease. Her endo encourages her to get the flu shot every year. If Kristen were to get the flu on top of the Grave’s disease, she would be one sick kid. In my opinion, anyone with chronic health conditions should think about getting the flu shot. My son is asthmatic and used to get the flu shot until he became an adult and decided he didn’t need it anymore P.S. Kristen goes back to the endo today. It’s looking like the radiation treatment for Grave’s disease she had during the Summer didn’t work. Sigh! She has two options, more radiation or surgery. Jackie ~*~In the hour of adversity be not without hope. For crystal rain

Thanks, Jackie. I’m sorry that your girls both have autoimmune disorders. They seem to run in families and go together, don’t they? I worry about Katie having one. The vitiligo is pretty harmless other than the cosmetic aspect, which I’m not all that concerned about, but anything that messes with your thyroi or chronic pain is a nightmare. I’m sorry Kristen’s radiation treatment didn’t work. I know Graves is horrendous because I had a hyper swing myself and cannot imagine having that for any longer than I did. Ack! I pray I don’t have another one, but as long as my thyroid continues to have life in it, there’s a chance. I guess I won’t get a flu shot again. I rarely get sick anyway, other than emotionally. You and Kristen are in my thoughts and prayers. I hope the next treatment works for her. Love, Dawn — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care!

I get a card every year inviting me to go for my free flu shot as I’m supposedly one of those at risk from complications from the flu, first time I got the card I was 28 and my GP said herself that panic is bad enough without getting the flu too. Of course this year I can’t make it to either of the two times on the card so I’ll have to make an appointment with the assistant… I can get my B12 shot while I’m there! — Vashti — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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That site concerned me just a bit. I have a grand daughter who is 7 months old, and she is supposed to have a flu vaccination. I didn’t know they gave them to babies, but apparently, they do. Hope she doesn’t have a bad reaction to that.  I had one son that had a reaction to his last DPT shot that scared me. Glad it was the last one he had to take.

Hey Sally, the regular childhood vaccines in the US no longer contain Thimerosal due to pressure from the public and certain groups but I’m not sure about the flu shot. If you’re concerned about it you can ask about a single dose vaccine as they don’t need to contain any preservatives, the single dose childhood vaccines never did IIRC. — Vashti — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Is there a problem with the flu and autoimmune disorders? I never heard this. I have Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and vitiligo (harmless one there). I got the flu that year I got a shot (the only shot I’ve ever had) and nothing happened other than I was sick for week or so.

That being sick for a week or two doesn’t sound like the flu, it may have been another bug doing the rounds at that time. Last time I had the real flu (not a really bad cold/sinus stuff etc) it lasted 6 weeks before I was fully better. :-/ The card I got (here in .nl) inviting me to get my free flu shot says it’s for those over 65 plus younger folks with heart, lung or kidney disease, diabetes and those with lowered immune systems. If you think you fall into one of those categories you could ask your doc about it? — Vashti — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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::((((((((Kristen & Jackie)))))))))) Thanks WB Hunter Jackie ~*~Nothing lasts forever, not even troubles~*~    ~Arnold H. Glasgow — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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::Thanks, Jackie. I’m sorry that your girls both have autoimmune disorders. ::They seem to run in families and go together, don’t they? Yes, they sure do! Thyroid problems are common in both mine and my Husband’s families. Kristen’s endo tells her that she was doomed to have a thyroid problem with her family history. My Sister was diagnosed with Hashis a few months after me. We both have young daughters with Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis. Talk about ficked up genes ::I worry about Katie having one. (((((Dawn))))) I understand your fear. ::The vitiligo is pretty harmless other than the cosmetic ::aspect, which I’m not all that concerned about, but anything that messes ::with your thyroi or chronic pain is a nightmare. Yup, it sure is. ::You and Kristen are in my thoughts and prayers. I hope the next treatment ::works for her. We went to the endo and he wants to recheck her in 10 weeks. Her thyroid levels are going down, albeit very slowly. He did say that it can take up to 6 months for it to go down completely. We’re at 3 months. Kristen is a tough cookie. She has been sick for a few years now and is working and going to college full time.  Thanks for your thoughts and prayers! Jackie ~*~Nothing lasts forever, not even troubles~*~    ~Arnold H. Glasgow — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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"Do you get a flu shot in the winter?" Yep yep every year I get the shot (my doc gave me one last week) and every 5 years (I think) the pneumonia shot as well.  I’ve had the flu twice in my life and NEVER want it again.  Since I’ve been shot up, I have not had the flu.  The only reaction I’ve had from the shot is a sore spot from the injection. For those of you who may not have the extra $ for the shot, you might try your county Health and Human services dept. —  I made appointments for my mom and honey at ours.  We went yesterday. Was quick and free. -frizz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Hi Jackie: Sorry to hear of Kristen’s illnesses.  I’m fairly new to the group and don’t know all the circumstances of other lives who have been posting here for a while so I’ll just <<<<<Kristen & Jackie and keep you in my prayers and thoughts. -frizz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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P.S. Kristen goes back to the endo today. It’s looking like the radiation treatment for Grave’s disease she had during the Summer didn’t work. Sigh! She has two options, more radiation or surgery.

((((((((Kristen & Jackie)))))))))) Tony — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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::Is there a problem with the flu and autoimmune disorders? I never heard ::this. I have Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and vitiligo (harmless one there). I ::got the flu that year I got a shot (the only shot I’ve ever had) and nothing ::happened other than I was sick for week or so. Dear Dawn, I was rushed when I wrote my reply, but really should have expounded a bit more. Katie takes two immunosuppressive meds (Enbrel and Methotrexate) for her rheumatoid arthritis. It’s the meds more than her arthritis that make her a candidate for the flu shot. Kristen is still quite sick with Grave’s disease. Her endo encourages her to get the flu shot every year. If Kristen were to get the flu on top of the Grave’s disease, she would be one sick kid. In my opinion, anyone with chronic health conditions should think about getting the flu shot. My son is asthmatic and used to get the flu shot until he became an adult and decided he didn’t need it anymore P.S. Kristen goes back to the endo today. It’s looking like the radiation treatment for Grave’s disease she had during the Summer didn’t work. Sigh! She has two options, more radiation or surgery. Jackie ~*~In the hour of adversity be not without hope. For crystal rain — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care! — _TJ_ Nope. I’m allergic to Thimerisol..the stuff they dilute the flu vaccine in. I can’t have a flu shot, but I’ve not had the flu since I was probably 7 years old, either. Sally Sally, I don’t get flu vaccine either as it gives me a bad reaction. What is Thimerisol?. What are your symptoms? I haven’t had a flu shot for a few years, because when I did,  I felt unwell for a few days and my arm became very swollen and red where the needle went in.. It was swollen about 6 inches round the needle area, and stayed that way for 5 or 6 days till swelling gradually went down and was very itchy. The doctor didn’t say it was an allergic reaction because by the time I would see her again , the swelling had gone down or gone completely. I used to get a flu shot yearly and my arm got swollen at the site of the needle, but not as bad as it became later on. Every year I wonder if I should get it as I have a few medical issues but for the past few years, I decided not to get it. Mary Mary, Margrove could probably tell you more about what Thermerisol (sp?) is. I only know I’ve had reactions to it before. It was a main ingredient in a contact lense cleaning solution that I used. Initially, it didn’t bother me at all, but I suppose I developed an allergy to it. When I would use it, my eyes became extremely bloodshot and painful. I used it a few times, got the same reaction, and I quit using it. And sometime after that, I worked in a doctor’s office, which means all of us gave one another flu vaccines.. they don’t want the staff catching it if it comes in.. I had a similar reaction to you.. my arm swelled and was extremely painful for several days. Don’t remember if I had itching or not, this was a few years ago.. I’d never had that reaction to the flu vaccine before. Not at all – and then I discovered they dilute the vaccine in Thimerisol, so I just knew that was the problem. Some people cannot take the flu vaccine because of an allergy to egg yolks, too. If you wanted to find out for sure, an allergist could test you, I’m sure enough myself that the Thimerisol  is the problem in my case. Hi Sally, Thanks for your reply. Yes, Margrove might know if he’s reading this. I probably wouldn’t go to an allergist. It takes so long to get an appointment and easier for me just not to take the flu shot. .I would love to know what causes me to have a bad reaction to flu shots though. I did a search on Google and various sites came up. One was from the FDA in the US. I am in Canada so don’t know if the same rules apply here by our Food and Drug dept.. http://www.fda.gov/CBER/vaccine/thimfaq.htm It seems to say its ok in vaccines for children which was the concern before, and seems to say its ok to have it in flu vaccines. Most people I know seem to be able to tolerate flu shots ok. But I have other allergies and bad side effects with some medications especially SSRI’s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thimerosal As far as mercury problem, Wikipedia mentions in part that vaccines with thermisol as a preservative only contain a small amount of mercury (25 mcg) and tuna fish in a can can have up to 50 mcg. I don’t know if thimerosal is what causes my problem or not. I just remembered that I had a shot for tenatus about 8 years ago which caused the same reaction as the flu shot does. Swollen and red at area where needle went in and very itchy after a day or two. And was a week before swelling went down.  You could have a little swelling and reddishness but not that much and should clear up in a couple of days or so I would think. At that time my previous doctor said I shouldn’t get tetanus shots. What would happen if I really needed one, I don’t know. I never used to have a problem with flu shots till the last 5 or 6 years ago. I’m not sure if thimerosal is in all vaccines or just some and I am not sure if its in flu vaccines in Canada as we may get the vaccines from a different source than the US. Mary

Mary, I didn’t know they used Thimerosal in other vaccines. IIRC.. I am thinking that when I had my last flu shot, my arm was sore for over a week — I know I posted a few days, but I know it was much longer than a few days… and that’s kind of strange for any kind of shot to hurt that long. I’ve heard of many people who claimed tetanus shots were quite painful for them, I am probably in need of one, myself. I know it’s been quite awhile. I should discuss this with my doctor. I have no idea what they do if you cannot take a tetanus shot and you need one. I believe I’d rather have a sore, itchy arm than lockjaw. I probably have hypersensitivity, not a full blown allergy to the Thimerosal  – I do have a bad allergy to Brazil nuts. Like, they can kill me. That reaction is an anaphylactic reaction, my throat closes up, my tongue swells, and everything I have itches, all at once, even my internal organs. Pretty nasty. Not what I experienced with my last run in with Thimerosal. That site concerned me just a bit. I have a grand daughter who is 7 months old, and she is supposed to have a flu vaccination. I didn’t know they gave them to babies, but apparently, they do. Hope she doesn’t have a bad reaction to that.  I had one son that had a reaction to his last DPT shot that scared me. Glad it was the last one he had to take. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ::Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is ::bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always ::get one to avoid this undesirable situation :: ::My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than ::most people who get them here but I don’t care! Hi TJ, I usually get the flu shot every year! I went to my doctor two weeks ago for a checkup and to get the flu shot and was told they aren’t giving flu shots due to a shortage. Yet I’ve read in the newspaper that there is no shortage of shots. Strange! My girls get the flu shot every year being they have autoimmune disorders. They cannot afford to get the flu. Jackie ~*~In the hour of adversity be not without hope. For crystal rain

Jackie, Is there a problem with the flu and autoimmune disorders? I never heard this. I have Hashimoto’s Thyroiditis and vitiligo (harmless one there). I got the flu that year I got a shot (the only shot I’ve ever had) and nothing happened other than I was sick for week or so. Dawn — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care! — _TJ_

Mom and I get our flu shots every year.  The one year I decided I was too perfect for one, I got sick as a dog. Thanks for reminding me! Deirdre — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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::Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is ::bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always ::get one to avoid this undesirable situation :: ::My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than ::most people who get them here but I don’t care! Hi TJ, I usually get the flu shot every year! I went to my doctor two weeks ago for a checkup and to get the flu shot and was told they aren’t giving flu shots due to a shortage. Yet I’ve read in the newspaper that there is no shortage of shots. Strange! My girls get the flu shot every year being they have autoimmune disorders. They cannot afford to get the flu. Jackie ~*~In the hour of adversity be not without hope. For crystal rain — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care! — _TJ_ Nope. I’m allergic to Thimerisol..the stuff they dilute the flu vaccine in. I can’t have a flu shot, but I’ve not had the flu since I was probably 7 years old, either. Sally Sally, I don’t get flu vaccine either as it gives me a bad reaction. What is Thimerisol?. What are your symptoms? I haven’t had a flu shot for a few years, because when I did,  I felt unwell for a few days and my arm became very swollen and red where the needle went in.. It was swollen about 6 inches round the needle area, and stayed that way for 5 or 6 days till swelling gradually went down and was very itchy. The doctor didn’t say it was an allergic reaction because by the time I would see her again , the swelling had gone down or gone completely. I used to get a flu shot yearly and my arm got swollen at the site of the needle, but not as bad as it became later on. Every year I wonder if I should get it as I have a few medical issues but for the past few years, I decided not to get it. Mary Mary, Margrove could probably tell you more about what Thermerisol (sp?) is. I only know I’ve had reactions to it before. It was a main ingredient in a contact lense cleaning solution that I used. Initially, it didn’t bother me at all, but I suppose I developed an allergy to it. When I would use it, my eyes became extremely bloodshot and painful. I used it a few times, got the same reaction, and I quit using it. And sometime after that, I worked in a doctor’s office, which means all of us gave one another flu vaccines.. they don’t want the staff catching it if it comes in.. I had a similar reaction to you.. my arm swelled and was extremely painful for several days. Don’t remember if I had itching or not, this was a few years ago.. I’d never had that reaction to the flu vaccine before. Not at all – and then I discovered they dilute the vaccine in Thimerisol, so I just knew that was the problem. Some people cannot take the flu vaccine because of an allergy to egg yolks, too. If you wanted to find out for sure, an allergist could test you, I’m sure enough myself that the Thimerisol  is the problem in my case.

Hi Sally, Thanks for your reply. Yes, Margrove might know if he’s reading this. I probably wouldn’t go to an allergist. It takes so long to get an appointment and easier for me just not to take the flu shot. .I would love to know what causes me to have a bad reaction to flu shots though. I did a search on Google and various sites came up. One was from the FDA in the US. I am in Canada so don’t know if the same rules apply here by our Food and Drug dept.. http://www.fda.gov/CBER/vaccine/thimfaq.htm It seems to say its ok in vaccines for children which was the concern before, and seems to say its ok to have it in flu vaccines. Most people I know seem to be able to tolerate flu shots ok. But I have other allergies and bad side effects with some medications especially SSRI’s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thimerosal As far as mercury problem, Wikipedia mentions in part that vaccines with thermisol as a preservative only contain a small amount of mercury (25 mcg) and tuna fish in a can can have up to 50 mcg. I don’t know if thimerosal is what causes my problem or not. I just remembered that I had a shot for tenatus about 8 years ago which caused the same reaction as the flu shot does. Swollen and red at area where needle went in and very itchy after a day or two. And was a week before swelling went down.  You could have a little swelling and reddishness but not that much and should clear up in a couple of days or so I would think. At that time my previous doctor said I shouldn’t get tetanus shots. What would happen if I really needed one, I don’t know. I never used to have a problem with flu shots till the last 5 or 6 years ago. I’m not sure if thimerosal is in all vaccines or just some and I am not sure if its in flu vaccines in Canada as we may get the vaccines from a different source than the US. Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care! — _TJ_

A definite NO! Nobody is injecting anything into my body unless I have an absolute 100% guarantee that it will not cause any side effects whatsoever plus that it will do what it is supposedly intended for..ie..to prevent flu. This can’t be guaranted, so no way. Caz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care! — _TJ_

Nope. I’m allergic to Thimerisol..the stuff they dilute the flu vaccine in. I can’t have a flu shot, but I’ve not had the flu since I was probably 7 years old, either. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care! — _TJ_ Nope. I’m allergic to Thimerisol..the stuff they dilute the flu vaccine in. I can’t have a flu shot, but I’ve not had the flu since I was probably 7 years old, either. Sally

Sally, I don’t get flu vaccine either as it gives me a bad reaction. What is Thimerisol?. What are your symptoms? I haven’t had a flu shot for a few years, because when I did,  I felt unwell for a few days and my arm became very swollen and red where the needle went in.. It was swollen about 6 inches round the needle area, and stayed that way for 5 or 6 days till swelling gradually went down and was very itchy. The doctor didn’t say it was an allergic reaction because by the time I would see her again , the swelling had gone down or gone completely. I used to get a flu shot yearly and my arm got swollen at the site of the needle, but not as bad as it became later on. Every year I wonder if I should get it as I have a few medical issues but for the past few years, I decided not to get it. Mary — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Do you get a flu shot in the winter?  I find having flu is bad enough without anxiety & panic too!  I always get one to avoid this undesirable situation My doc looks at me funny cos I am younger than most people who get them here but I don’t care! — _TJ_ Nope. I’m allergic to Thimerisol..the stuff they dilute the flu vaccine in. I can’t have a flu shot, but I’ve not had the flu since I was probably 7 years old, either. Sally Sally, I don’t get flu vaccine either as it gives me a bad reaction. What is Thimerisol?. What are your symptoms? I haven’t had a flu shot for a few years, because when I did,  I felt unwell for a few days and my arm became very swollen and red where the needle went in.. It was swollen about 6 inches round the needle area, and stayed that way for 5 or 6 days till swelling gradually went down and was very itchy. The doctor didn’t say it was an allergic reaction because by the time I would see her again , the swelling had gone down or gone completely. I used to get a flu shot yearly and my arm got swollen at the site of the needle, but not as bad as it became later on. Every year I wonder if I should get it as I have a few medical issues but for the past few years, I decided not to get it. Mary

Mary, Margrove could probably tell you more about what Thermerisol (sp?) is. I only know I’ve had reactions to it before. It was a main ingredient in a contact lense cleaning solution that I used. Initially, it didn’t bother me at all, but I suppose I developed an allergy to it. When I would use it, my eyes became extremely bloodshot and painful. I used it a few times, got the same reaction, and I quit using it. And sometime after that, I worked in a doctor’s office, which means all of us gave one another flu vaccines.. they don’t want the staff catching it if it comes in.. I had a similar reaction to you.. my arm swelled and was extremely painful for several days. Don’t remember if I had itching or not, this was a few years ago.. I’d never had that reaction to the flu vaccine before. Not at all – and then I discovered they dilute the vaccine in Thimerisol, so I just knew that was the problem. Some people cannot take the flu vaccine because of an allergy to egg yolks, too. If you wanted to find out for sure, an allergist could test you, I’m sure enough myself that the Thimerisol  is the problem in my case. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm

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It’s not very good news, I’m afraid, although I don’t have any specific answers yet.  The vet thinks it may be her kidneys.  They had to give her subQ fluids and they did a complete blood work-up.  The vet will call me with the results tomorrow. I’m now $255 poorer and I’ll have to have a "discussion" about that with DH tonight (he only told me about 20 times that we can’t afford a big vet’s bill right now, but heck, I also operate under the assumption that it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than to get permission . I’ll let you guys know as soon as I know anything tomorrow, but please keep the purrs coming for now. Hugs, CatNipped

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s not very good news, I’m afraid, although I don’t have any specific answers yet.  The vet thinks it may be her kidneys.  They had to give her subQ fluids and they did a complete blood work-up. The vet will call me with the results tomorrow. I’m now $255 poorer and I’ll have to have a "discussion" about that with DH tonight (he only told me about 20 times that we can’t afford a big vet’s bill right now, but heck, I also operate under the assumption that it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than to get permission . I’ll let you guys know as soon as I know anything tomorrow, but please keep the purrs coming for now. Hugs, CatNipped

Will keep purring for Jessie and your finances. — Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s not very good news, I’m afraid, although I don’t have any specific answers yet.  The vet thinks it may be her kidneys.  They had to give her subQ fluids and they did a complete blood work-up. The vet will call me with the results tomorrow. I’m now $255 poorer and I’ll have to have a "discussion" about that with DH tonight (he only told me about 20 times that we can’t afford a big vet’s bill right now, but heck, I also operate under the assumption that it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than to get permission . I’ll let you guys know as soon as I know anything tomorrow, but please keep the purrs coming for now. Hugs, CatNipped

More, more and more purrs coming for Jessie that all will be well. Charleen and the chorus of purrers Mr. Pumpkin, Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro.

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Hi, if you don’t mind, I’m going to steal your comment below for my new personal motto:

I also operate under the assumption that it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than to get permission . — Shirley B. Rexie’s Mom To Reply by email: remove ‘nick’ Pictures of His Majesty, Rex are at: http://community.webshots.com/album/255873683SwWQZJ AND OUR HOMEPAGE:  http://jumi-shirley-butler.com

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OK, DH is home and it wasn’t as bad as I feared – just a few minutes of the silent treatment then a threat to make me take over the finances if I keep over-riding his financial decisions (the worst of it since me doing the checkbook would be a disaster!!!), and then a short lecture, then forgiveness (with a bit more lecture thrown in).  All in all I got off relatively easy!  ; I wasn’t really worried, Jessie is his special girl! Hugs, CatNipped

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s not very good news, I’m afraid, although I don’t have any specific answers yet.  The vet thinks it may be her kidneys.  They had to give her subQ fluids and they did a complete blood work-up.  The vet will call me with the results tomorrow. I’m now $255 poorer and I’ll have to have a "discussion" about that with DH tonight (he only told me about 20 times that we can’t afford a big vet’s bill right now, but heck, I also operate under the assumption that it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than to get permission . I’ll let you guys know as soon as I know anything tomorrow, but please keep the purrs coming for now. Hugs, CatNipped

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Oh dear! We’ll keep up the purrs. Suz&Spicey

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s not very good news, I’m afraid, although I don’t have any specific answers yet.  The vet thinks it may be her kidneys.  They had to give her subQ fluids and they did a complete blood work-up.  The vet will call me with the results tomorrow. I’m now $255 poorer and I’ll have to have a "discussion" about that with DH tonight (he only told me about 20 times that we can’t afford a big vet’s bill right now, but heck, I also operate under the assumption that it’s easier to ask for forgiveness than to get permission . I’ll let you guys know as soon as I know anything tomorrow, but please keep the purrs coming for now. Hugs, CatNipped

Oh nooooooOOoooooOOoooo!!  CN, if you need a donation, let me know.  And please keep us all updated.  I’ve got so many purrs going that God thinks I’m the alpha cat here!! And don’t forget to take care of you too!! —

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Visit to dr produced pleasing results Hba1c – 5.6 Cholesterol down BP up He has changed me from Ramipril to Lisinopril anyone any experience of this? David

Yup, it’s an ACE inhibitor which affects BP and protects the kidneys. Have to check your potassium levels on it though and perhaps switch to an ARB if there any problems. The ACE induced cough might also be a problem. Several threads on Lisinopril from this ng ….. http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=lisinopril&safe=images&as_ugro…

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Visit to dr produced pleasing results Hba1c – 5.6 Cholesterol down BP up He has changed me from Ramipril to Lisinopril anyone any experience of this? David

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Visit to dr produced pleasing results Hba1c – 5.6 Cholesterol down BP up He has changed me from Ramipril to Lisinopril anyone any experience of this? David

Same class of drugs – so probably trying you on an alternative to see if the effect on you in particular is better I would guess.  Chol should not be affected. I’m on enalopril – another of the family. VBH T2/UK/A1c 5.6/ 1000Met/Dx Oct-03

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Visit to dr produced pleasing results Hba1c – 5.6 Cholesterol down BP up He has changed me from Ramipril to Lisinopril anyone any experience of this?

I use Lisinopril (2.5mg per day) to keep my BP where it needs to be. It was a tad high. I don’t know if/how it affects cholesterol. Beav

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – perhaps switch to an ARB if there any problems. whats an ARB? searched blood pressure medications but can find nothing about this. I’m on Lisinopril at the moment but do get occasional trouble with a dry cough. ARBs do the same job as ACEs but are sometimes tolerated better. "Angiotensin receptor blockers (ARBs) are medications that block the action of angiotensin II. As a result, the blood vessels dilate and the blood pressure is reduced. The lower blood pressure makes it easier for the heart to pump blood and can improve heart failure. In addition, the progression of kidney disease due to high blood pressure or diabetes is slowed." Compare them both on the pages below… ARB page … http://www.medicinenet.com/angiotensin_ii_receptor_blockers/article.htm ACEs page …. http://www.medicinenet.com/ace_inhibitors/article.htm

Thank you, very informative.

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perhaps switch to an ARB if there any problems.

whats an ARB? searched blood pressure medications but can find nothing about this. I’m on Lisinopril at the moment but do get occasional trouble with a dry cough.

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perhaps switch to an ARB if there any problems. whats an ARB? searched blood pressure medications but can find nothing about this. I’m on Lisinopril at the moment but do get occasional trouble with a dry cough.

ARBs do the same job as ACEs but are sometimes tolerated better. "Angiotensin receptor blockers (ARBs) are medications that block the action of angiotensin II. As a result, the blood vessels dilate and the blood pressure is reduced. The lower blood pressure makes it easier for the heart to pump blood and can improve heart failure. In addition, the progression of kidney disease due to high blood pressure or diabetes is slowed." Compare them both on the pages below… ARB page … http://www.medicinenet.com/angiotensin_ii_receptor_blockers/article.htm ACEs page …. http://www.medicinenet.com/ace_inhibitors/article.htm

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Visit to dr produced pleasing results Hba1c – 5.6 Cholesterol down BP up He has changed me from Ramipril to Lisinopril anyone any experience of this?

Congrats!! I have only taken an ACE for a week, developed the irritating cough, I take an ARB with which I am very happy – no apparent side effects and good BP control.

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snoopy happy dance on the 5% A1c reading keep on keeping on kate (using Accuretic) — Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org — /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher.

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Many thanks the groups comments were most helpful. David

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Visit to dr produced pleasing results Hba1c – 5.6 Cholesterol down BP up He has changed me from Ramipril to Lisinopril anyone any experience of this? David Yup, it’s an ACE inhibitor which affects BP and protects the kidneys. Have to check your potassium levels on it though and perhaps switch to an ARB if there any problems. The ACE induced cough might also be a problem. Several threads on Lisinopril from this ng ….. http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?as_q=lisinopril&safe=images&as_ugro…

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If you are on Lisinopril you are supposed to get your potassium checked aren’t you or at least keep an eye on it.

"An uncommon yet potentially serious side effect of taking ACE inhibitors is increased blood potassium levels.1 2 3 This problem is more likely to occur in people with advanced kidney disease. Taking potassium supplements,4 potassium-containing salt substitutes (No Salt

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This is a site for people wanting to help places faces to the statistics. If you would like your site to be a part of www.LinksForLifeCampaign.com please email me.  My contact information can be found at www.donationforcynthia.com.  Thanks irmawood…@hotmail.com

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I found it ironic that the first recipient was an HMO executive. The New York Times October 21, 2004 Transplant Arranged via the Internet Is Completed By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS DENVER, Oct. 20 (AP) – Surgeons completed a kidney transplant Wednesday in what is believed to be the first operation where the donor and recipient met through a commercial Web site. The donor and recipient were doing well after the four-hour surgery, a spokeswoman for Presbyterian/St. Luke’s Medical Center said. The recipient, Bob Hickey, who lives in a mountain town near Vail, had needed a transplant since 1999 because of kidney disease but had tired of being on the national waiting list. Mr. Hickey met the donor, Rob Smitty, of Chattanooga, Tenn., through MatchingDonors.com, a Web site created in January to match donors and patients for a fee. "Sitting on a waiting list and hoping for a new kidney for so long, your attention is attracted to anything that might help you," Mr. Hickey, 58, a former executive at a health maintenance organization, said a few hours before the operation. The transplant had been scheduled for Monday, but doctors called it off at the last moment to look into whether either Mr. Hickey or Mr. Smitty stood to profit from the arrangement. Both men said no money changed hands for the organ, which would violate federal law. Ethicists said they still had concerns about MatchingDonors.com and other organ donations between strangers. There are no laws against soliciting an organ donation, and an increasing number of patients have turned to friends and family, or even casual acquaintances, for kidneys and pieces of liver. By finding his own donor, Mr. Hickey bypassed the waiting list maintained by the United Network for Organ Sharing, the nonprofit group that works under government contract to allocate organs donated from the dead. The network does not oversee the increasing number of live donors. Last year, there were 6,920 living donors compared with 6,457 dead ones. Arthur Caplan, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania, said the first ethical issue raised by Internet donations was financial. Not everyone can afford to pay donor expenses or MatchingDonors.com’s fees. "Those who are better off are going to have access to people as potential donors that the poor or the shy won’t have," Mr. Caplan said. MatchingDonors.com, based in Canton, Mass., charges varying fees to post profiles of people looking for live organ donors. The company says that all its profits go to maintain the site and that it often waives fees. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/21/national/21kidney.html Copyright 2004 The New York Times Company — Sam Saal ss…@sonic.net Deleted NOSPAM to reply

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Hi, I’m really sorry if this question has been dealt with before, but I can’t get my computer to download the messages! I have been diabetic (type I) for 19 years since I was 8 and as a result am now having problems with my kidneys. I have been on glargine and humalog insulin for a year now and although I feel this regime is much better for me, by blood sugar levels are still swinging around. I really don’t want to go on dialysis. . . .is there anything else I can do/ take/ eat/ avoid that may help?

I have only heard of two approaches:   1.  Work to control your blood sugars;  do anything and everything it takes. You took a big step by converting to the modern power-insulins,  Lantus and Humalog, but you need to learn how to use that power.        a.  Read Bernstein’s . . ."Dr Bernstein’s Diabetes Solution", Bernstein, Richard K., M.D.    He advocates reduced carb diets coupled with a careful DAFNE regime  (he doesn’t call it DAFNE but that’s what it is) Bernstein is a hard-nose, and somewhat obnoxious  and possibly extreme but he knows his stuff.   Do what he says, perhaps do half of what he says, and your sugar control will improve.    (He is a diabetic M.D. who started injecting before you were born)       b.  Take a DAFNE course somehow,  somewhere.   Be as aggressive and obstreperous as it takes to be accepted http://www.diabetes.org.uk/infocentre/inform/dafne.htm http://www.aafp.org/afp/20030201/tips/16.html http://tinyurl.com/4jp8w http://www.pc.rhul.ac.uk/schools/DAFNE/DAFNE.html   2.   ACE blood pressure meds, and possibly ARB blood pressure meds seem to have a protective effect on diabetic kidneys which is not related to blood pressure.   That means take an ACE or an ARB even if you don’t seem to have elevated blood pressure.   (See obstreperous remarks if your doc doesn’t agree) http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/kdd/ ".  .  .An example of an effective ACE inhibitor is captopril, which doctors commonly prescribe for treating kidney disease of diabetes. The benefits of captopril extend beyond its ability to lower blood pressure: it may directly protect the kidney’s glomeruli. ACE inhibitors have lowered proteinuria and slowed deterioration even in diabetic patients who did not have high blood pressure. An example of an effective ARB is losartan, which has also been shown to protect kidney function and lower the risk of cardiovascular events. . ." Good Luck  Old Al

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Hi, I’m really sorry if this question has been dealt with before, but I can’t get my computer to download the messages! I have been diabetic (type I) for 19 years since I was 8 and as a result am now having problems with my kidneys. I have been on glargine and humalog insulin for a year now and although I feel this regime is much better for me, by blood sugar levels are still swinging around. I really don’t want to go on dialysis. . . .is there anything else I can do/ take/ eat/ avoid that may help?

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my thoughts, .. are you worried about infection? does he or did he take an antibiotic?? at what age was he when they suggested you to come back every 5yrs? Ava is 19months this coming month we will be on our visit for the first time.. 3months had passed, i hope this pattern continues the bi-weekly and monthly visit are so much a hassel.. when YOU are on the Doctors time. if his kidney is healthy ( Ava’s isnt) she has a diseased kidney, ( so i fear… my guess of transplant would eventually happen) you are in NY? so im sure you have the top of the line specialist in your area.. and know what they are talking about. BUT.. a 2nd opinion never hurts anybody. i am confident in the doctors we see at the childrens hospital, Mostly.. because of there reactions to me and Ava after birth and how disappointed in the OB care i recieved. "They" were saving her life .. at all cost. i suggest, find specialist like that.

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We just found out on Monday that our baby might be born with only one kidney; they can only see one in the ultrasound. The kidney that is there seems to be functioning properly. The dr said they will do an u/s on her when she’s born, but people live perfectly normal lives with one kidney.

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hope all will go well, just ask SO MANY questions.. we asked alot of questions. im just so upset.. they told me there were 2 kidneys in my daughters body, when ONLY one exsisted. can you tell me where abouts are you. and when the baby is due??.. my daughter is being looked upon as a medical marvel.. i’d like to inform the medical proffessional .. there is another baby coming, and.. hopefully your results will be better then ours at birth, will save you alot of heartache..  if they can use our info to help you.( through research) if not.. just keep it in mind, when you need some hope ( it puts a real strain on your brain and body)… if things were to go bad, from what you say.. i gather thats not going to happen.( fingers crossed) good luck.. my heart and hope is out to you and your little one.

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Thank you our son Dylan was born with one kidney and I worry alot, especially his salt intake and if someone is accidentally gonna kick him in the kidney. Val-NY

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sorry i am late to reply, you are the 2nd person i met from this place with the same or type of experience we are going through. I also worry my daughter will get kicked in the back, but she has alot of urine, so she needs the extra salt in her diet. are you seeing other specialist? nephrology and the nutritionist? her kidney does not digest potassium, so this is a huge delema for us. i was very consumed with her health in the begining, also i have that fear of what IF!! basically im trying to let her experience the world but at the same time not grow up to fast!! I tell her sisters to also watch her back!! there are lots of questions i have to ask, but would prefer to keep them personal, so if you dont mind e-mailing me?? Thank you so much to reply, i am drowning with curiousity of WHO else.. is out there like us. bless you.

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i posted in the kidney forum about a year ago, my daughter was born with one kidney and it was/is severly damaged the OBGYN and other specialist did not for see this in Utero, I’m not sure WHO i am commenting to since i only have the topic to respond to, BUT i would rather have known in Utero then the day after your child is born. Needless to say.. she is perfect in my eyes, laughing running,playing.. and a HUGE menice( she thinks she is an acrobat). the only berdon we have taken on are the endless doctor and hospital trips. at this point i am no longer thinking of HOW long she will live, but my eyes tear up to see SHE is living. AND its all worth it!!!!! Things still could change for the worse, but im living for today and and experiencing everything i can with her!!! D.

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>Things still could change for the worse, but im living for today and and >experiencing everything i can with her!!!

I’m glad to hear she’s doing good.  You’re right about living for the day. That’s all you can do. But now we got weapons Of the chemical dust If fire them we’re forced to Then fire them we must One push of the button And a shot the world wide And you never ask questions When God’s on your side. With God on Our Side Bob Dylan

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My son was born with one healthy kidney 4 years ago. We also found out when I was pregnant. He is doing fine and goes for yearly ultrasounds to track the growth because they say if you have only one…the one you have can grow larger to compensate for not having the other. They also did a test on him at 3 months old that was called a nuclear ultrasound which shot dye into his blood to see the function of that kidney. Also they were conserned with urine being retracted back up into the kidney. So they had to do an ultrasound while he was urinating to check the flow. All the tests came back good, thank god And he is as normal as any other 4 years old. The only down side is that the doctor’s told me not to let him play any contact or rough sports…which sucks, but I rather have my son then an all-star athlete. If you have any more questions please feel free to ask.

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Our 4 yr son Dylan was born with one healthy kidney also.  He had quite a few tests and all were normal.  The urologist said he is healthy and you can live a long healthy life with one kidney.  Its upsetting to find out your son has one kidney.  I do worry that what if, I’m not consumed with it, but its very hard when you find out from when there born, its a lifelong thing you’ll always have on your mind.  I try to keep Dylan away from high salt foods like chips, chinese food etc.  The doctor says high salt makes the kidney work harder.  Sometimes I try to forget about it, but I worry another child might kick him in the back.  I’m always saying to my other son james, watch his back.  Many people have found out in there old age they had only one kidney.  Back then they did not have all this modern techniques.  Our urologist suggested Dylan not play football and to wear a guard when he’s playing sports.  He also suggested to see Dylan every 5 years.  He told ud to go home and not worry and live a normal life. What are your thoughts Val-NY

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jeronimo wrote: > I’m a very healthy 35yr old. male.  I found out a couple of years ago that > I was born with one kidney.  I had an appendectomy.   They did a CT scan > prior to that that showed only one Kidney.  My kidney function was and is > excellent. > Hope it helps ease the worry!

I have an uncle who is 88 who was born with one kidney. No problems.

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I’m a very healthy 35yr old. male.  I found out a couple of years ago that I was born with one kidney.  I had an appendectomy.   They did a CT scan prior to that that showed only one Kidney.  My kidney function was and is excellent. Hope it helps ease the worry!

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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:55"AshleyRae" <ashley.rae.br…@us.army.mil> wrote: >dissappeared or maybe it wasnt there all along. They tell us that her >right kidney is completely normal and many people live healthy lives with >just one. I dont know much about kidneys or whats involved when a child is >born with just one. Im worried despite the doctors telling me she will be >fine. If any has any knowledge with this type of situation and cant point >me in the right direction to get more knowledge it would be extremely >appreciated.

Just chiming in with the others, but someone born with just one kidney should be fine. I know a girl who had such serious kidney problems while still in utero that the doctors were sure she wouldn’t live out the first week. She’s ten years old now. There will be a lot more information available to you once the baby is born. — chuk

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If memory serves me correctly, somewhere around one in every 700 people (correct me if this is wrong, folks) is born with only one kidney, so it is not a rare thing at all. My boss and I were both born with only one kidney. He is in super perfect health at 40 years old, and being born with only one had nothing to do with my own kidney disease.

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Hi, I am a mom of two daughters. My oldest which will be 25 in Jan. has been having abdominal pain for a few months. Doctors have been treating her for different things. She had a CT today which shows she has a large ovarian cyst and to our surprise she has no right kidney. She has got along fine without her right kidney. Of course I am sure her doctor will tell her now she needs to be careful with what she takes, especially meds that filter through the kidney. But, not to worry she has done fine. Good Luck with the little one. God Bless!

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Contact me at irmawood…@hotmail.com I can put you in contact with my friend, he is a single dad with two boys, the youngest was born with two kidneys and one disappeared, he is 2+ and in perfect health.  

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My aunt only has only ever had one natural kidney and now is a feisty 90+ with not a single organ-related hitch. It’s her stubbornness that is the "problem". Walks to grocery store, walks two pets, mows lawn on her own alone after widowing a couple of years ago. Grandpa wrote: > If memory serves me correctly, somewhere around one in every 700 people > (correct me if this is wrong, folks) is born with only one kidney, so it is > not a rare thing at all. My boss and I were both born with only one kidney. > He is in super perfect health at 40 years old, and being born with only one > had nothing to do with my own kidney disease.

– "Never have so many understood so little about so much."                               — James Burke

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Thank you so much. Im trying not worry but its our first child and its hard.

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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 06:23:46 -0400, "AshleyRae" <ashley.rae.br…@us.army.mil> wrote: >Thank you so much. Im trying not worry but its our first child and its >hard.

That is quite understandable.  It is my understanding that as a child develops in the uterus there appear a number of kidney buds, generally six in number.  Those merge and generally form two kidneys but that isn’t always the case.  A person usually only needs 25% of a single kidney to actually function correctly to be healthy.  Nature just generally provides us with much more kidney function that we’ll ever use. Larry

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I’ve met a number of people who found out they only had one kidney later in life. It doesn’t seem to be a problem for them. One kidney has more than enough kidney function for one person. Good luck. Pierre "AshleyRae" <ashley.rae.br…@us.army.mil> wrote in message

news:e6db73959d167317f3c9d0cd9f429cee@localhost.talkaboutsupport.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> All through my pregnancy the ultrasounds have shown that my baby had > something wrong with its left kidney. The doctors said they really couldnt > speculate what the problem was and that they would monitor it until she > was born. This was at when I was 13 weeks. I am now 32 weeks along and > during my last ultrasound my husband and I were told that the kidney has > dissappeared or maybe it wasnt there all along. They tell us that her > right kidney is completely normal and many people live healthy lives with > just one. I dont know much about kidneys or whats involved when a child is > born with just one. Im worried despite the doctors telling me she will be > fine. If any has any knowledge with this type of situation and cant point > me in the right direction to get more knowledge it would be extremely > appreciated.

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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:55:33 -0400, "AshleyRae" <ashley.rae.br…@us.army.mil> wrote: >All through my pregnancy the ultrasounds have shown that my baby had >something wrong with its left kidney. The doctors said they really couldnt >speculate what the problem was and that they would monitor it until she >was born. This was at when I was 13 weeks. I am now 32 weeks along and >during my last ultrasound my husband and I were told that the kidney has >dissappeared or maybe it wasnt there all along. They tell us that her >right kidney is completely normal and many people live healthy lives with >just one. I dont know much about kidneys or whats involved when a child is >born with just one. Im worried despite the doctors telling me she will be >fine. If any has any knowledge with this type of situation and cant point >me in the right direction to get more knowledge it would be extremely >appreciated.

While most people are born with two kidneys some can be born with only one while some others may have three kidneys or more. Whether people have one kidney, two kidneys or three all are have normal kidney function.  All kidney transplant patients live normal lives with only one kidney.  Your baby should be just fine with a single kidney unless she develops kidney disease at some point in her life.  Kidney disease can strike anyone and her odds of developing it are no greater than anyone else’s odds unless kidney disease runs in your family or your husband’s family.  Your doctor is correct and you really shouldn’t let this worry you too much. I wish you and your soon to be born daughter the very best. Larry

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All through my pregnancy the ultrasounds have shown that my baby had something wrong with its left kidney. The doctors said they really couldnt speculate what the problem was and that they would monitor it until she was born. This was at when I was 13 weeks. I am now 32 weeks along and during my last ultrasound my husband and I were told that the kidney has dissappeared or maybe it wasnt there all along. They tell us that her right kidney is completely normal and many people live healthy lives with just one. I dont know much about kidneys or whats involved when a child is born with just one. Im worried despite the doctors telling me she will be fine. If any has any knowledge with this type of situation and cant point me in the right direction to get more knowledge it would be extremely appreciated.

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Little Monster wrote: > Michaela, unto whom the words are attributed: >> Little Monster wrote: >>> I was just thinking about the date I had on Sunday – one of the >>> reasons she gave for not wanting to see me again was that I seemed >>> to be tight fisted. >> Hope you smacked her. >> – Michaela, I did not say that > No, I didn’t.

I didn’t mean it. Well I meant it, but I meant it more metaphorically (?).   I have another date with her, though… > Monsser

I for one hope you’re as -if not more- "tightfisted" this time round. You’ve nothing to prove to her. Be good to yourself. You’re good to others by being good to yourself. Just a thought. Use it. Don’t use it. – Michaela

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"Eerie Cabinets of Dr. Rodent" (a…@at.org) writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in > news:cfecm7$ddk$1@freenet9.carleton.ca: >> "Eerie Cabinets of Dr. Rodent" (a…@at.org) writes: >>> bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Eleonore Beaudoin) wrote in >>> news:cfe9us$a0h$1@freenet9.carleton.ca: >>>>> It’s called "True Love". >>>> "And as the years go by >>>> True love will never die…" >>> Of course, it was never born or ever existed. >> Ever heard that song, btw? Says it all quite well and succintly. >> Wish I knew all the words. But have not heard the song often enough to >> memorize them (very old song of the must be early 60s) > Not sure.  Maybe it’s from "Ferry Cross the Merzy."

Not a clue… That name does not ring any bells at all…But then, names…eh. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>> — >>> "Shopping for coffins is like shopping for prostitutes: If you look >>> around long enough, you’ll find one that does what you want at a >>> price you can afford." (Last night’s Penn & Tellers’ "Bullshit!") >> — > — > "Shopping for coffins is like shopping for prostitutes: If you look around > long enough, you’ll find one that does what you want at a price you can > afford." (Last night’s Penn & Tellers’ "Bullshit!")

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Um, yeah, probably every post I send in whichever alcoholic delirium might at any time attract the ire of the government of the country bordering my own, in the meanwhile, if someone has something to say to me about anything I’ve posted here, then, I’d rather deal with those individual persons here and now, as it is easier to assuage the conscience when it is mano et mano, so to speak. If any man / woman / entity I have inadvertently offended here, let that entity take the fight to me, and I’ll see what I can do to redress the offence. God bless you all – except the government. OTS "Sklenge" <skle…@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

news:BD3FA42B.197BF%sklenge@yahoo.co.uk… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Intercranial Otter Filter’s post: > > "I was briefly propositioned as to the possibility of living together with a > > kidney-sucking Man-beast" > > Hang on – lemmee check – > > "The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living And Became Mixed Up > > Zombies" > > I don’t know, but, I think if you tried to do a movie with the kidney in the > > title above, you would be pushing it in terms of simultaneously the ability > > to expediently fit all the words in the cinema hoarding and also there might > > be entirely too many syllables in it. > > Um… > > "Men Want Only Your Kidneys" – bit of a generalisation. > > "Healthy Kidney Pragmatic Search" – ermmm… > > "ME WANT KIDNEY!" – promising. > > Sirs, what do you think? > The word kidney would also conjure up the image and taste of stewed > kidneys… not many people are into offal right now, and kidneys is an > ‘acquired’ taste that many would rather not acquire. > Also what about us vegetarians? You can buy synthetic chicken and beef and > even pretend haggis (!) but false kidneys are not on the menu at the moment > – probably not too big a market for ‘em… unless they’re some kind of > rising star we’re all about to have to face (Veg-Kid

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Your lives are too valuable to be wasted, what ever you do, who ever you are.  Life is just too important to be wasted on such rubbish as tobacco. My mum died in 1991 (May 31) because of her tabacco addiction (that’s what it is, afterall) and I held her hand for her last, gasping, struggling breaths.  While her death was totally avoidable, the damage it did to her family and friends, especially her childred (my sister, brother and I), was incalculable. Your lives are just to important. Final comment. — Alan Erskine We can get people to the Moon in five years, not the fifteen GWB proposes. Give NASA a real challenge

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I completely agree with you, Alan.  My husband died on February 9, 1986, of the same cause. — Joy Life is what happens to you while you are planning to do something else.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Your lives are too valuable to be wasted, what ever you do, who ever you are.  Life is just too important to be wasted on such rubbish as tobacco. My mum died in 1991 (May 31) because of her tabacco addiction (that’s what it is, afterall) and I held her hand for her last, gasping, struggling breaths.  While her death was totally avoidable, the damage it did to her family and friends, especially her childred (my sister, brother and I), was incalculable. Your lives are just to important. Final comment. — Alan Erskine We can get people to the Moon in five years, not the fifteen GWB proposes. Give NASA a real challenge

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I completely agree with you, Alan.  My husband died on February 9, 1986, of the same cause. — Joy

Such a pointless loss.  I personally don’t know why tobacco isn’t banned – more people die each year from tobacco related illnesses than _ever_ died from asbestos related illnesses.  In Australia, 18,000 people die each year from tobacco related illnesses – on a per capita basis, the U.S. would be losing 261,000 people.  Horrifying. When mum died, I did some research into the subject – 70% of all gangrenous amputations (toes, fingers, feet, hands etc) are tobacco related – it affects the blood flow.  Asopheageal cancer, brain tumours, heart attacks, strokes, stomach cancer, liver disease, kidney disease ad infinitum…. — Alan Erskine We can get people to the Moon in five years, not the fifteen GWB proposes. Give NASA a real challenge

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Since you’re in Oz, I excuse you for not realizing the political power of BigBidness (i.e. tobacco product companies and their diversifications, oil, etc.) when you inquire why such a lethal substance continues to be legal and receive gov’t subsidies here. I don’t see this changing in our lifetimes.

: I completely agree with you, Alan.  My husband died on February 9, 1986, : of the same cause. : : — : Joy : : : Such a pointless loss.  I personally don’t know why tobacco isn’t banned – : more people die each year from tobacco related illnesses than _ever_ died : from asbestos related illnesses.  In Australia, 18,000 people die each year : from tobacco related illnesses – on a per capita basis, the U.S. would be : losing 261,000 people.  Horrifying. : : When mum died, I did some research into the subject – 70% of all gangrenous : amputations (toes, fingers, feet, hands etc) are tobacco related – it : affects the blood flow.  Asopheageal cancer, brain tumours, heart attacks, : strokes, stomach cancer, liver disease, kidney disease ad infinitum…. : : — : Alan Erskine : We can get people to the Moon in five years, : not the fifteen GWB proposes. : Give NASA a real challenge : :

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Neither do I.  :-( — Joy Life is what happens to you while you are planning to do something else.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since you’re in Oz, I excuse you for not realizing the political power of BigBidness (i.e. tobacco product companies and their diversifications, oil, etc.) when you inquire why such a lethal substance continues to be legal and receive gov’t subsidies here. I don’t see this changing in our lifetimes. : I completely agree with you, Alan.  My husband died on February 9, 1986, : of the same cause. : : — : Joy : : : Such a pointless loss.  I personally don’t know why tobacco isn’t banned – : more people die each year from tobacco related illnesses than _ever_ died : from asbestos related illnesses.  In Australia, 18,000 people die each year : from tobacco related illnesses – on a per capita basis, the U.S. would be : losing 261,000 people.  Horrifying. : : When mum died, I did some research into the subject – 70% of all gangrenous : amputations (toes, fingers, feet, hands etc) are tobacco related – it : affects the blood flow.  Asopheageal cancer, brain tumours, heart attacks, : strokes, stomach cancer, liver disease, kidney disease ad infinitum…. : : — : Alan Erskine : We can get people to the Moon in five years, : not the fifteen GWB proposes. : Give NASA a real challenge : :

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things to say about Re: OT – Congratulations to all who have stopped smoking: When mum died, I did some research into the subject – 70% of all gangrenous amputations (toes, fingers, feet, hands etc) are tobacco related – it affects the blood flow.

I would think diabetic complications would account for a higher percentage of this. — "The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. " – the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL

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Ouch!  I’m terrified to dye my hair & you just totally supported my fears. : ) Hugs, Maggie

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Thanks for the kind words. Maybe we could all put our minds together and manufacture this illusive pause button? I combatted the blahs yesterday by getting my hair highlighted – figured if my hair was bright and cheery the rest of my would follow! Hehe, I am such a girl. Our gripe session is cheering me too!!! Steph <JD…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:15686-402CBD1E-322@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net… Oh Steph, Here’s a hug for you. ((((u)))) Girl, if you think you’re a whimp, then I can only say it’s a good thing you majored in psychology. :-