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Hi Last time I went to the doctor she said that I have a "little bit" of protein in my urine. I had blood tests and x-rays taken. I have been waking up in the morning with severe back pain in the area of my  back where the kidneys are located. I was wondering if these are signs of kidney disease? I will be going back to the doctor for a follow up appointment soon to discuss the results of the blood tests and x-rays. version77

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I am on dialysis and not an expert on this, but I understand that yes, this is one of the signs of possible kidney problems. Plan to see your doctor as soon as you can, if not satisfied, or to get add’t info., plan to see a Nephrologist (kidney dr.). You have more options if caught early, such as w/ basketball player, Alonzo Morning, which has been in the news recently. Good Luck, Brad "AppleHead" <versio…@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:3AE7DA71.B05250D@earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi > Last time I went to the doctor she said that I have a "little bit" of > protein in my urine. I had blood tests and x-rays taken. I have > been waking up in the morning with severe back pain in the area of > my  back where the kidneys are located. I was wondering if these > are signs of kidney disease? I will be going back to the doctor for > a follow up appointment soon to discuss the results of the blood tests > and x-rays. > version77

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Hi I went to the doctor yesterday again and they are taking more urine tests to see if the protein is still there/getting worse, ect. I guess I will know more in a few days. I haven’t caught any of the news about Alonzo Morning. What is happening with him? I did a search on his name and didn’t find anything. Oh, and thanks for the reply! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -hirsch wrote: > I am on dialysis and not an expert on this, but I understand that yes, this > is one of the signs of possible kidney problems. Plan to see your doctor as > soon as you can, if not satisfied, or to get add’t info., plan to see a > Nephrologist (kidney dr.). You have more options if caught early, such as w/ > basketball player, Alonzo Morning, which has been in the news recently. > Good Luck, > Brad > "AppleHead" <versio…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:3AE7DA71.B05250D@earthlink.net… > > Hi > > Last time I went to the doctor she said that I have a "little bit" of > > protein in my urine. I had blood tests and x-rays taken. I have > > been waking up in the morning with severe back pain in the area of > > my  back where the kidneys are located. I was wondering if these > > are signs of kidney disease? I will be going back to the doctor for > > a follow up appointment soon to discuss the results of the blood tests > > and x-rays. > > version77

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Sorry, bad spelling, that’s Alonzo Mourning with the Miami Heat. Sounds like your doctor is on top of things, good luck. Brad "AppleHead" <versio…@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:3AE9ECEA.B019C110@earthlink.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi > I went to the doctor yesterday again and they are taking more urine tests to > see if the protein is still there/getting worse, ect. I guess I will know more > in > a few days. I haven’t caught any of the news about Alonzo Morning. What is > happening with him? I did a search on his name and didn’t find anything. > Oh, and thanks for the reply! > hirsch wrote: > > I am on dialysis and not an expert on this, but I understand that yes, this > > is one of the signs of possible kidney problems. Plan to see your doctor as > > soon as you can, if not satisfied, or to get add’t info., plan to see a > > Nephrologist (kidney dr.). You have more options if caught early, such as w/ > > basketball player, Alonzo Morning, which has been in the news recently. > > Good Luck, > > Brad > > "AppleHead" <versio…@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > news:3AE7DA71.B05250D@earthlink.net… > > > Hi > > > Last time I went to the doctor she said that I have a "little bit" of > > > protein in my urine. I had blood tests and x-rays taken. I have > > > been waking up in the morning with severe back pain in the area of > > > my  back where the kidneys are located. I was wondering if these > > > are signs of kidney disease? I will be going back to the doctor for > > > a follow up appointment soon to discuss the results of the blood tests > > > and x-rays. > > > version77

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I met with another new Pain Clinic doctor, and part of his exam was trying to bend my fingernails down – he said my left hand’s fingernails were very weak compared to my right.  Anyone know what he was looking for or what he is concerned about? Thanks! — Christi ~*~ Senior Stampin’ Up! Demonstrator ~*~ Exquisite Essentials http://www.eeshops.com Tell me about your PETS! http://www.trilogyonline.com/ChristiConley/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -^,,^<         ^,,^<         ^,,^<         ^,,^<

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Christi, The fingernails can show signs of many different diseases and conditions. As an example, reflex sympathetic dystrophy (RSD or RSDS) can cause changes in the nails on the affected limb. The following quote is from the American Pain Foundation concerning RSD: "Stage one lasts from 1 to 3 months and is characterized by severe, burning pain at the site of the injury. Muscle spasm, joint stiffness, restricted mobility, ***rapid hair and nail growth***, and vasospasm (a constriction of the blood vessels) that affects color and temperature of the skin can also occur. In stage two, which lasts from 3 to 6 months, the pain intensifies. Swelling spreads, hair growth diminishes, ***nails become cracked, brittle, grooved, and spotty***, osteoporosis becomes severe and diffuse, joints thicken, and muscles atrophy." This is not to say you have RSD but used as an example. Infections, kidney disease, major trauma, emotional and physical stress can all cause changes in the growth, shape and other characteristics of the finger and/or toe nails. Ask your physician what he meant when he noted this change in your nails. Jack http://www.jackstem.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I met with another new Pain Clinic doctor, and part of his exam was trying to bend my fingernails down – he said my left hand’s fingernails were very weak compared to my right.  Anyone know what he was looking for or what he is concerned about? Thanks! — Christi ~*~ Senior Stampin’ Up! Demonstrator ~*~ Exquisite Essentials http://www.eeshops.com Tell me about your PETS! http://www.trilogyonline.com/ChristiConley/ ^,,^<         ^,,^<         ^,,^<         ^,,^<

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I met with another new Pain Clinic doctor, and part of his exam was trying to bend my fingernails down -Anyone know what he was looking for or what he is concerned about?

I can only think of one thing….he’s sadistic!!!

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I met with another new Pain Clinic doctor, and part of his exam was trying to bend my fingernails down -Anyone know what he was looking for or what he is concerned about? I can only think of one thing….he’s sadistic!!!

Peripheral blood flow. Bending the nail down (painless) causes the colour under the nail to change. If the blood flow is alright, it gets pink. If not, it won’t change.

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thanks everyone – I will have to ask him what he was looking for and what he found – I was just hoping some of you folks could put my mind at ease – I am dangerous when left to my own devices and those damn diagnose yourself websites….. hehehe — Christi ~*~ Senior Stampin’ Up! Demonstrator ~*~ Exquisite Essentials http://www.eeshops.com Tell me about your PETS! http://www.trilogyonline.com/ChristiConley/ ^,,^<         ^,,^<         ^,,^<         ^,,^<

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I met with another new Pain Clinic doctor, and part of his exam was trying to bend my fingernails down -Anyone know what he was looking for or what he is concerned about? I can only think of one thing….he’s sadistic!!! Peripheral blood flow. Bending the nail down (painless) causes the colour under the nail to change. If the blood flow is alright, it gets pink. If not, it won’t change.

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My RSD started in the lower abdomen and after spreading from a two inch strip below my navel to hip to hip and pubic line to five inches above the navel it has now started attacking my arms and legs. My nails have always been very soft and the only time I could ever keep nice nails was when I was working and could afford to have a nail tech apply acrylics. I gave it up about 18 months ago in preparation for surgery and haven’t been to them since. Now that RSD has crawled into my limbs my nails have grown long and strong for the first time in my life (I’m 48). I suppose if my nails had been strong to begin with they would not be brittle and splitting from being overly strong. Marla – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Christi, The fingernails can show signs of many different diseases and conditions. As an example, reflex sympathetic dystrophy (RSD or RSDS) can cause changes in the nails on the affected limb. The following quote is from the American Pain Foundation concerning RSD:

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If the techniques already suggested don’t work, you may also want to try a different source of heat to warm your fingers.  The water can have a cooling effect once you remove your finger from the water flow.  After a vigorous handwash, dry your hands and wrap them in a warm, dry (clean, of course) towel.   Good luck!    Traci – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wash with warm water, dangle the victim hand for a few seconds…I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ve asked for help, but was told that it takes practice. Well, this practice has lasted for almost 3 weeks, and it’s getting really old. Please share any suggestions any of you might have. I’ve only been doing fingersticks for a few weeks and I had a bit of a problem getting enough blood too.   What works for me, is that first I let the fingers that I intend to poke linger under the warm water rinse, after I wash my hands.  The warm water increases the blood flow to the surface. After I dry my hands, and dangle my hand for a few seconds at my side,  I firmly grasp the intended finger at the joint and push (massage) towards the tip of the finger three or four times to "milk"  the blood toward the tip. I then push a final time with my thumb, maintaining the pressure for three seconds, before applying the softclix to the side of the finger.  If the drop of blood is small, and it usually is,  I continue to milk the finger until the drop becomes larger.  I am using a Dex meter which requires a smaller drop of blood than the Accucheck Simplicity that I first used. Another thing to check is your setting on the softclix.  If you consistently are not getting enough blood, it may not be set to penetrate deeply enough for your skin type.   My skin is relatively thick, and I had to go up to a setting of 3.5 before I could consistently get a drop of blood large enough to test. — Keith F. Smith, M.P.H. Mobile County Health Department Type II, 7/99,  Amaryl2

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I wash with warm water, dangle the victim hand for a few seconds…I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ve asked for help, but was told that it takes practice. Well, this practice has lasted for almost 3 weeks, and it’s getting really old. Please share any suggestions any of you might have.

If you’re type 2 and don’t have any signs of retinopathy or kidney disease, many doctors recommend low-dose aspirin to decrease the risk of heart disease. Do not stay on aspirin without your doctor’s ok. Aspirin makes a difference in my fingersticks. One a day is too much for me – I bleed (and bruise) too easily. The thought of one of those bleeds in my retina is pretty scary. -MT

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I wash with warm water, dangle the victim hand for a few seconds…I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ve asked for help, but was told that it takes practice. Well, this practice has lasted for almost 3 weeks, and it’s getting really old. Please share any suggestions any of you might have.

I’ve only been doing fingersticks for a few weeks and I had a bit of a problem getting enough blood too.   What works for me, is that first I let the fingers that I intend to poke linger under the warm water rinse, after I wash my hands.  The warm water increases the blood flow to the surface. After I dry my hands, and dangle my hand for a few seconds at my side,  I firmly grasp the intended finger at the joint and push (massage) towards the tip of the finger three or four times to "milk"  the blood toward the tip. I then push a final time with my thumb, maintaining the pressure for three seconds, before applying the softclix to the side of the finger.  If the drop of blood is small, and it usually is,  I continue to milk the finger until the drop becomes larger.  I am using a Dex meter which requires a smaller drop of blood than the Accucheck Simplicity that I first used. Another thing to check is your setting on the softclix.  If you consistently are not getting enough blood, it may not be set to penetrate deeply enough for your skin type.   My skin is relatively thick, and I had to go up to a setting of 3.5 before I could consistently get a drop of blood large enough to test. — Keith F. Smith, M.P.H. Mobile County Health Department Type II, 7/99,  Amaryl2

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My midwife wants me to check my blood sugar 4 times a day. I am 17 weeks pregnant. (Snipped) I’m not having a lot of luck. It’s taking 3-4, sometimes 5, attempts to get enough blood out of my fingers to register on the monitor. I have to be doing something wrong. I use a Soft Clix and aim for the outer edge of a finger. If I’m lucky, I get a darn near microscopic drop of blood.

  I am not familiar with the Soft Clix.  Can you adjust the depth of penetration?  If you can, I’d suggest setting it on the deepest setting.  If it isn’t adjustable, I would press down more firmly on the finger.   It sound like you are doing things right, otherwise.  You might try rubbing your hands together fast for a few seconds beforehand too.  Good Luck! — David Robin The Diagnoses:  sideroblastic anemia/hemochromatosis  8/98, IDDM  10/90 The Meds: NPH insulin, humalog, chelation with desferal on hold, folic acid, pyroxidine, calcium and Vitamin E The Counts (and normal ranges):  hg: 10.5 (12.5-17); Ferritin:  936 (20-450); hg A1c:  7.4 (4.2-5.9)

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I have gestational diabetes and when I found out consulted this group on which lancet device was the best since the thought of sticking myself terrified me (and it’s still no picnic).  The "Vaculance" got the most votes so I asked the diabetic counselor if she had any — since they just get loaned out to everyone with GDM.  Thankfully she did have one a drug rep had given them that they never bothered to give out since it can’t be returned — because of the blood getting on part of it, I guess.  She also gave me the "Soft Clix" since that’s what they usually give "their girls." I tried the fingers for awhile with the "Soft Clix" but couldn’t get enough blood on the glucometer — usually gave up after 3 tries.  There’s been maybe one or two times that I *haven’t* produced enough blood from the "Vaculance" so I would definitely suggest trying to get one.  I don’t find it hurts any more than the "Soft Clix" and sometimes it hurts less.  Since I got mine for free, I’m not sure if that has one of those rebate plans where it only ends up costing a few bucks but I’m sure you could find out easily enough by going to a drugstore. -Julie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My midwife wants me to check my blood sugar 4 times a day. I am 17 weeks pregnant. I have passed every blood test I have taken — glucose tolerance and a fasting blood sugar test. But at my doctor appointments, I continue to spill sugar into my urine. My midwife cannot decide if I might be on the verge of gestational diabetes or if I just have a strange body quirk. This very thing happened with my two previous pregnancies. I was never diagnosed with gestational diabetes, but I cannot "pass" to pee tests, so to speak? Does anyone have any suggestions/information? As a precaution, and I suppose to keep an eye on whether the excess sugar shows up in my blood, I am *trying* to use my blood sugar monitor. I’m not having a lot of luck. It’s taking 3-4, sometimes 5, attempts to get enough blood out of my fingers to register on the monitor. I have to be doing something wrong. I use a Soft Clix and aim for the outer edge of a finger. If I’m lucky, I get a darn near microscopic drop of blood. This is really frustrating, because when I did a practice run at the doctor’s office, I pulled the trigger in the same area I’m aiming for now and practically gushed blood. My fingers are bring poked about 20 times a day–on a good day. And that’s before I give up. Any suggestions for this? I wash with warm water, dangle the victim hand for a few seconds…I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ve asked for help, but was told that it takes practice. Well, this practice has lasted for almost 3 weeks, and it’s getting really old. Please share any suggestions any of you might have. Thank you, Lisa Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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You can get blood from the Soft Clix on #2??  I had it set on #3 and it always took at *least* two sticks — usually 3.  I was figuring that was due to the fact that the needle was getting more dull with each stick and was therefore making a bigger hole!  :-) -Julie Hi Lisa, I can appreciate your concerns at poking your fingers, I had the same

trouble at first.  My problem was I was petrified to do it, and had to get over the psychological hangup I had. What works for me is much the same as what you are already doing.  I wash

my hands well in warm soapy water, and let my fingers dangle down towards the drain as my hands rinse.  Then I keep my hands down low as I dry them.

I wiggle/shake my hand, letting in dangle by my side.  I gently massage the intended finger from my wrist down to the tip of the finger, helping to

get it filled with blood.  After I do the poke, I let my hand dangle down again for maybe 5 seconds, then I work at getting the blood to form a drop.

95% of the time it works, but there are times when it doesnt, and I have to psyche myself up to do it again…I hate that!  I use the Soft Clix too,

and it’s set on #2.  Maybe you need to increase the number on your poker and see if that helps.  Make sure you are using a new lancet as they are

sharper.  I use mine for about two weeks before changing them.  Also try to poke closer to the middle of the finger, rather than on the edge, but dont

poke in the very middle as that hurts like hell.  Same with the very tip – – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ouch!  It really does take practice to find what works for you, and I wish you the best. Elva in Ontario My midwife wants me to check my blood sugar 4 times a day. I am 17 weeks pregnant. I have passed every blood test I have taken — glucose tolerance and a fasting blood sugar test. But at my doctor appointments, I continue to spill sugar into my urine. My midwife cannot decide if I might be on the verge of gestational diabetes or if I just have a strange body quirk. This very thing happened with my two previous pregnancies. I was never diagnosed with gestational diabetes, but I cannot "pass" to pee tests, so to speak? Does anyone have any suggestions/information? As a precaution, and I suppose to keep an eye on whether the excess sugar shows up in my blood, I am *trying* to use my blood sugar monitor. I’m not having a lot of luck. It’s taking 3-4, sometimes 5, attempts to get enough blood out of my fingers to register on the monitor. I have to be doing something wrong. I use a Soft Clix and aim for the outer edge of a finger. If I’m lucky, I get a darn near microscopic drop of blood. This is really frustrating, because when I did a practice run at the doctor’s office, I pulled the trigger in the same area I’m aiming for now and practically gushed blood. My fingers are bring poked about 20 times a day–on a good day. And that’s before I give up. Any suggestions for this? I wash with warm water, dangle the victim hand for a few seconds…I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ve asked for help, but was told that it takes practice. Well, this practice has lasted for almost 3 weeks, and it’s getting really old. Please share any suggestions any of you might have. Thank you, Lisa Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Hi Lisa, I can appreciate your concerns at poking your fingers, I had the same trouble at first.  My problem was I was petrified to do it, and had to get over the psychological hangup I had.   What works for me is much the same as what you are already doing.  I wash my hands well in warm soapy water, and let my fingers dangle down towards the drain as my hands rinse.  Then I keep my hands down low as I dry them.  I wiggle/shake my hand, letting in dangle by my side.  I gently massage the intended finger from my wrist down to the tip of the finger, helping to get it filled with blood.  After I do the poke, I let my hand dangle down again for maybe 5 seconds, then I work at getting the blood to form a drop.  95% of the time it works, but there are times when it doesnt, and I have to psyche myself up to do it again…I hate that!  I use the Soft Clix too, and it’s set on #2.  Maybe you need to increase the number on your poker and see if that helps.  Make sure you are using a new lancet as they are sharper.  I use mine for about two weeks before changing them.  Also try to poke closer to the middle of the finger, rather than on the edge, but dont poke in the very middle as that hurts like hell.  Same with the very tip – ouch!  It really does take practice to find what works for you, and I wish you the best. Elva in Ontario – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My midwife wants me to check my blood sugar 4 times a day. I am 17 weeks pregnant. I have passed every blood test I have taken — glucose tolerance and a fasting blood sugar test. But at my doctor appointments, I continue to spill sugar into my urine. My midwife cannot decide if I might be on the verge of gestational diabetes or if I just have a strange body quirk. This very thing happened with my two previous pregnancies. I was never diagnosed with gestational diabetes, but I cannot "pass" to pee tests, so to speak? Does anyone have any suggestions/information? As a precaution, and I suppose to keep an eye on whether the excess sugar shows up in my blood, I am *trying* to use my blood sugar monitor. I’m not having a lot of luck. It’s taking 3-4, sometimes 5, attempts to get enough blood out of my fingers to register on the monitor. I have to be doing something wrong. I use a Soft Clix and aim for the outer edge of a finger. If I’m lucky, I get a darn near microscopic drop of blood. This is really frustrating, because when I did a practice run at the doctor’s office, I pulled the trigger in the same area I’m aiming for now and practically gushed blood. My fingers are bring poked about 20 times a day–on a good day. And that’s before I give up. Any suggestions for this? I wash with warm water, dangle the victim hand for a few seconds…I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ve asked for help, but was told that it takes practice. Well, this practice has lasted for almost 3 weeks, and it’s getting really old. Please share any suggestions any of you might have. Thank you, Lisa Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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My midwife wants me to check my blood sugar 4 times a day. I am 17 weeks pregnant. I have passed every blood test I have taken — glucose tolerance and a fasting blood sugar test. But at my doctor appointments, I continue to spill sugar into my urine. My midwife cannot decide if I might be on the verge of gestational diabetes or if I just have a strange body quirk. This very thing happened with my two previous pregnancies. I was never diagnosed with gestational diabetes, but I cannot "pass" to pee tests, so to speak? Does anyone have any suggestions/information? As a precaution, and I suppose to keep an eye on whether the excess sugar shows up in my blood, I am *trying* to use my blood sugar monitor. I’m not having a lot of luck. It’s taking 3-4, sometimes 5, attempts to get enough blood out of my fingers to register on the monitor. I have to be doing something wrong. I use a Soft Clix and aim for the outer edge of a finger. If I’m lucky, I get a darn near microscopic drop of blood. This is really frustrating, because when I did a practice run at the doctor’s office, I pulled the trigger in the same area I’m aiming for now and practically gushed blood. My fingers are bring poked about 20 times a day–on a good day. And that’s before I give up. Any suggestions for this? I wash with warm water, dangle the victim hand for a few seconds…I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ve asked for help, but was told that it takes practice. Well, this practice has lasted for almost 3 weeks, and it’s getting really old. Please share any suggestions any of you might have. Thank you, Lisa Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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I use a Soft Clix and aim for the outer edge of a finger. If I’m lucky, I get a darn near microscopic drop of blood. This is really frustrating, because when I did a practice run at the doctor’s office, I pulled the trigger in the same area I’m aiming for now and practically gushed blood. My fingers are bring poked about 20 times a day–on a good day. And that’s before I give up. Any suggestions for this? I wash with warm water, dangle the victim hand for a few seconds…I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ve asked for help, but was told that it takes practice. Well, this practice has lasted for almost 3 weeks, and it’s getting really old. Please share any suggestions any of you might have.

Hi Lisa.   I use the sides of my fingers, along the top third, either side of the nail (although getting too close to the nail can be painful).   Are you making sure you have the soft clix pressed firmly against your finger and then pulling the trigger?  It sounds like you might either not be pressing into the finger or are pulling away just slightly just before the needle goes in. You might also try a methodical testing of one finger, moving slightly up or down each time, then noting which places work best for you, as they should be similiar on other fingers. moonshyne

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insulin for about five months. She eats the vet reccommended packaged dog food, but has recently decided that it no longer tastes good and stopped eating much. She has been to the vet and she is healthy, but bored with

the When I, or my diabetic Great Dane, would lose interest in food, it was due to running high blood sugar. How often do you check your dogs bg. Has the vet showed you how? You might try cooked oatmeal. My Dane loved it. Best of health to both of you. George Lovelace

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I’m new to this so bear with me. I have a 13 year old dog that has been on insulin for about five months. She eats the vet reccommended packaged dog food, but has recently decided that it no longer tastes good and stopped eating much. She has been to the vet and she is healthy, but bored with the food. Do you have any dog recipes that I might cook for her? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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<<if your dog has high blood glucose readings, then it is probably diabetes. … Other things besides diabetes can cause high also glucoses in animals (and humans too)—in dogs such things are liver disease, hyperthyroidism, cushings,  diestrus,  pancreatitis exocrine pancreatic neoplasia renal insufficiency, pheochromocytoma, post-prandially by eating soft moist foods,  some medications ( glucocorticoids, progestagens, megestrol acetate), and of course lab error.  Therefore the  vet should make the diagnosis based on 3 things—presence of clinical symptoms, presence of hyperglycemia, and presence of glucose in the urine.

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I suspect that my dog may have diabetes.  She exhibits the first three signs which are excessive drinking, more frequent urination, and increased appetite.  However, she is about 10 pounds overweight, according to the vet.  I’ve found, through my research, that another sign of diabetes is weight loss.  Is it possible that she may have the disease even though she has not exp[erienced any weight loss?  If anyone has any experiences to share or thoughts I would appreciate it.  Thanks.

While those are signs of diabetes they are also sign of other diseases too—liver disease, thyroid disease, renal disease, pituitary disorders, and cushings for example can all cause increased drinking and urination.   Also there are drugs which can exhibit those symptoms too such as steroids.   The absense of weight loss also doesn’t rule out diabetes yet as it may be early in the disease.  Your vet should start with a blood glucose level and a urine glucose test–has he? If it turns out to be diabetes, it is very managable in dogs–I have a Lhasa with diabetes.  Check out the Pet Diabetes Home Page—www.petdiabetes.org Lots of info plus links to chatrooms, mailings lists, and message board for pet diabetes.

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Kara – if your dog has high blood glucose readings, then it is probably diabetes. However, if there is sugar in the urine but not in the blood, then it is Fanconi syndrome, which is a type of kidney disease. Basenji dogs are very prone to it. RC – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I suspect that my dog may have diabetes.  She exhibits the first three signs which are excessive drinking, more frequent urination, and increased appetite.  However, she is about 10 pounds overweight, according to the vet.  I’ve found, through my research, that another sign of diabetes is weight loss.  Is it possible that she may have the disease even though she has not exp[erienced any weight loss?  If anyone has any experiences to share or thoughts I would appreciate it.  Thanks.

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I have a cat with Cushings that  is injected with 6 units of Ultra Lente twice a day. Symptoms very similar to diabetes but the pathology is quite different. Loss of vision, painful to walk on back legs, excessive urination…..etc. 8 years on Insulin and getting around fine. Vision came back, neuropathy is gone,  just tweeked Insulin downward due to weight loss and increase in number of hypo episodes. Its kinda weird to have T1 diabetes and live with a pet that needs Insulin too. Bob and "Rocky" the Cat —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <<if your dog has high blood glucose readings, then it is probably diabetes. … Other things besides diabetes can cause high also glucoses in animals (and humans too)—in dogs such things are liver disease, hyperthyroidism, cushings,  diestrus,  pancreatitis exocrine pancreatic neoplasia renal insufficiency, pheochromocytoma, post-prandially by eating soft moist foods,  some medications ( glucocorticoids, progestagens, megestrol acetate), and of course lab error.  Therefore the  vet should make the diagnosis based on 3 things—presence of clinical symptoms, presence of hyperglycemia, and presence of glucose in the urine.

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I suspect that my dog may have diabetes.  She exhibits the first three signs which are excessive drinking, more frequent urination, and increased appetite.  However, she is about 10 pounds overweight, according to the vet.  I’ve found, through my research, that another sign of diabetes is weight loss.  Is it possible that she may have the disease even though she has not exp[erienced any weight loss?  If anyone has any experiences to share or thoughts I would appreciate it.  Thanks.

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I suspect that my dog may have diabetes.  She exhibits the first three signs which are excessive drinking, more frequent urination, and increased appetite.  However, she is about 10 pounds overweight, according to the vet.  I’ve found, through my research, that another sign of diabetes is weight loss.  Is it possible that she may have the disease even though she has not exp[erienced any weight loss?  If anyone has any experiences to share or thoughts I would appreciate it.  Thanks.

Kara there is a good mailing list for diabetic pet owners – you can find the info on subscribing at www.mendosa.com .  The answer to your question is yes she could have diabetes without weight loss. Beanie, Type I (Humalog and Ultralente)

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Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this?                                                 Thanks,                                                         Tom

I’m only diabetic during pregnancy and haven’t had to be on insulin yet… I don’t know if the following  would apply to regular diabetes or not but I figured I’d mention it just in case it helps….the one thing I found that helped stabilize was my blood sugar was to increase my protein intake significantly from the recommended diet for gestational diabetics. I’m more active than most pregant women- swimming, biking,etc -which is why I think the typical diet was inadequate…Until I increased my protien consumption, against the advice of the nutrionist, my blood sugars either to high or too low -and my baby was showing signs of distress…..(BTW- she is fine…..she is the 4YO "kayak babe" who likes sitting on the stern of her Dad’s kayak while he surfs) sheila

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First, let me admit that I am a rafter, not a hard boater, and second, that I found out late last year that I was a type II (rezulin and humulinR). I had finished part of guide school last spring and had planned to try and finish it this year. After talking to far too many doctors (one of which kayaks), they all agreed that I should be able to do it with no trouble. It works out that I did not, not directly because of the DM, but because the insulin "helped" me put on 35 pounds, and that weight caused me to pass on spring rafting on the Gauley and the New. The weight is starting to drop and I expect to be back on the river later this year. The best advice I can offer is talk to your doctors, listen to their advice, and then make your own decision. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this?                                                 Thanks,                                                         Tom One of the best mountain bikers I ride with is diabetic. He takes lots of glucose hits (sweets) with him on the ride, and nibbles as he needs to. Serious cross-country riding is certainly more intense excercise than paddling, and he gets through more blood sugar riding than I expect you would paddling. I’m sure you know the first warning signs of a hypo better than anyone else reading this, so chew a few jellies when it happens. Keep them in a pocket on your pfd. From the point of view of a non-diabetic with reasonable first aid training, I would definitely agree that it is preferable to paddle with high sugar than low. tim

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this?                                                 Thanks,                                                         Tom I’m only diabetic during pregnancy and haven’t had to be on insulin yet… I don’t know if the following  would apply to regular diabetes or not but I figured I’d mention it just in case it helps….the one thing I found that helped stabilize was my blood sugar was to increase my protein intake significantly from the recommended diet for gestational diabetics. I’m more active than most pregant women- swimming, biking,etc -which is why I think the typical diet was inadequate…Until I increased my protien consumption, against the advice of the nutrionist, my blood sugars either to high or too low -and my baby was showing signs of distress…..(BTW- she is fine…..she is the 4YO "kayak babe" who likes sitting on the stern of her Dad’s kayak while he surfs) sheila

Sheila’s idea works for the short term.  But as a habit, it’s a bit rough on the kidneys.  Definitely don’t routinely increase your protein beyond recommended levels by your nutritionist.  In the Type I(Juvenile) and type II(Adult onset) diabetics, kidney disease is a serious threat. Prolonged high protein diets may increase the risk of permanent kidney damage.  It’s really hard to live on dialysis, and even harder to paddle. — Rob Molyneaux, PA-C I took so many rescue classes, now my wife teases me. remove "nospam" from address to return mail

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My wife’s diabetic an been paddling for almost ten years without any major problems.  She manages it by eating throughout the day (a little at a time, all day to keep the sugar from going too high) and keeping a juice box of OJ if needed.  She’ll usually take a power bar or similar high carbo food with her to eat, usually at any play spot or wherever we stop she’ll eat a little.  The only times she gets near being low is if she’s teaching and has less control over when to stop.  Letting everyone you paddle with know helps as they’ll constatntly offer something to eat or ask if you need to stop. Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this?                                                 Thanks,                                                         Tom

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Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this?                                                 Thanks,                                                         Tom

hey there i’m hypoglycemic, which is a lot like diabetes.  I fortuntatley only have 2 or 3 attacks a month though, and don’t have to do the daily insulin tricks.  But i do experience sugar waves where I go through the coaster ride.  Usually what does the trick for me, is a pack or 2 of gu. just put it in your jacket pocket, and you’re set.  it’s a regulated amount of simple and complex sugar, and unless I’ve been a moron and let my level plummet, it’s usually enough to get me back on track.  I of course have glucose tab’s and insulin in my first aid kit along with jollyranchers.. hope this helps perri

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Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this? Thanks, Tom

I am a diabetic who has play’s in UK ww and surfs, my advice would be to do the same as me. Take 25% less on the morning before the run and if running all day do the same for lunch. Take your lunch with you and stop for it !. Eat a 40+ gram carbohydrate chocolate bar before morning and afternoon run. When I have finished I usually need to increase my next dose of insulin by about 25%. This works for me – good luck with your paddling. Chas Couchman Bournemouth, UK.

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I can’t help you with your question, however, knowing how rapid the onset of hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) in a diabetic can occur and the results if not properly treated; if you havn’t already, I would like to suggest that you educate your paddling partners as to the signs ( rapid onset of altered mental status or as you put it "getting stupid", intoxiated appearance, combativeness, anxiety, uncharacteristic behavior, ect.) of a diabetic emergency and how your doctor suggests that you be cared for.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this?                                            Thanks,                                                    Tom

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I am type 2 NIDD and usually take 7.5 mg of glyburide daily spread over 3 doses.  I had trouble with my BG dropping severely whenever I engaged in activities such as paddling hiking or golf.   The solution that I use is to not take the medication the morning of the planned activity.  The physical exhertion of these activities keeps my BG in the normal range.  Both myself and my doctor agree that the small temporary rise in pre activity BG is far less problematic the a hypo attack on some isolated river (I do a lot of solo tripping).  After the activity I test and then resume the medication when needed. When on a trip of 3 days to a month my BG stays well within allowable limits and I find I don’t need the medication at all until I return to ice cream country.     It’s also a good idea carry high sugar snacks or glucose tablets that can be purchased in any pharmacy just in case. Don Haig

Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this?       Thanks,        Tom

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Sheila’s idea works for the short term.  But as a habit, it’s a bit rough on the kidneys.  Definitely don’t routinely increase your protein beyond recommended levels by your nutritionist.  In the Type I(Juvenile) and type II(Adult onset) diabetics, kidney disease is a serious threat. Prolonged high protein diets may increase the risk of permanent kidney damage.  It’s really hard to live on dialysis, and even harder to paddle. —

Thanks for clarifying Rob……that makes sense……I have been following this discussion with interest as I have had GD for 3 pregnancies and have a strong family history of diabetes..I am working on keeping my weight down and all…..but realize that some day I may develop type II diabetes….. sheila

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yea a mate oif mine has this problem too!he just eats choc on the way down the river,if hes too high,well we go do more paddling.he only has the excuse to eat chocolate when paddling so he dose!!!um havnt seen him get low on the river yet!only at work,which resulted in(he is a kitchen hand)him running off with a mop and bucket into the darkness,up trees though fences etc,very amusing after wards!!anyhoo mail me and ill talk to him for you.it may take a while im off for 20 days rory – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this?                                            Thanks,                                                    Tom

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Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this?                                                 Thanks,                                                         Tom

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Any other diabetic ww boaters out there? I’m trying to keep my sugar levels down, but going too low = getting stupid, and stupid’s no way to be on the river. So far I just over eat and let my sugar go high. I was just wondering how anyone else might be dealing with this?                                                 Thanks,                                                         Tom

One of the best mountain bikers I ride with is diabetic. He takes lots of glucose hits (sweets) with him on the ride, and nibbles as he needs to. Serious cross-country riding is certainly more intense excercise than paddling, and he gets through more blood sugar riding than I expect you would paddling. I’m sure you know the first warning signs of a hypo better than anyone else reading this, so chew a few jellies when it happens. Keep them in a pocket on your pfd. From the point of view of a non-diabetic with reasonable first aid training, I would definitely agree that it is preferable to paddle with high sugar than low. tim

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Make another appointment with your vet and tell him/her exactly what you have written here. Your dog is ill. Maybe it is time for another vet opinion. Good luck DeJune

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those signs are suggestive of cushing’s disease..(panting and increased  thirst), or kidney disease.. the licking and blood suggests bladder infection I recommend another trip to the vet for blood work for cushings and a  urinalysis and culture.. Why didnt you calll your vet with these questions..they are a better resource  than the internet.  Call them

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I have noticed that my 11yr old shepherd/lab mix has been panting almost  constantly. She drinks a lot of water (a large dish per day) but they say that  is good for larger dogs (70lbs). The panting though has been going on for only  a couple months. What could be the cause of this. We live in FL but she is an inside dog and we  have air conditioning so it can’t be that she is hot like she would be  outside. Could she have a fever? An infection? Don’t know if this means anything but the  pads on her feet seemed very hot tonite. I don’t know if this is related or not but I noticed that she has also started  licking her butt (where she urinates for lack of a technical term) quite  frequently also. Tonite I noticed a bit of blood on her (again where she  urinates). I don’t know if it was just because it was irritated from her  licking it all the time or if she licks it cause she is bothered by something  else (maybe a urinary tract infection and it burns when she urinates?). These are all just guesses but I am worried about these things. Should I be?  Does anyone have any ideas what could be causing these things? She was at the  vet about a month ago for a geriatric checkup (she goes every 6months) and her  bloodwork was fine). She also has a runny nose all the time I have mentioned this to the vet and she  said not to worry about the runny nose unless it is thick and resembles  mayonaise. I appreciate any help or advice you can give me.

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Have Diabetes Mellitus and Minor Kidney Problems? Research study at the University of Michigan is trying an investigational medication to see if it can slow down kidney disease! If you have Type I diabetes Mellitus, are between the ages of 22-50 years of age,  and showing signs of protein in your urine, you may be eligible.

Been there, done that. The answer for nephropathy is ACE inhibitors. My kidney function is now perfectly normal (YMMV), so what’s the new idea? Apparently fish oil can also help (new research finding I believe). Yours, Patrick I tend to eat my UUCP feed once a day so replies can take two days

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Have Diabetes Mellitus and Minor Kidney Problems? Research study at the University of Michigan is trying an investigational medication to see if it can slow down kidney disease! If you have Type I diabetes Mellitus, are between the ages of 22-50 years of age,  and showing signs of protein in your urine, you may be eligible. For details, call Mary McElgunn (313) 936-6390

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