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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dr. Clark also talked in detail about the pathology of cancer. Briefly her latest finding is that simple food chemicals can trigger the dispersion of hypothalamus cells, pituitary cells and pancreas cells which then travel and fuse to other parts of the body to start tumors. Mind-boggling nonsense. Peter Moran "..so many centuries after the Creation it is unlikely that anyone could find hitherto unknown lands of any value." - committee advising Ferdinand and Isabella regarding Columbus’ proposal, 1486 "I would sooner believe that two Yankee professors lied, than that stones fell from the sky" – Thomas Jefferson, 1807 on hearing an eyewitness report of falling meteorites. "Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You’re crazy." – Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859. "Louis Pasteur’s theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." – Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872 "The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon." – Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria 1873. "This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." – Western Union internal memo, 1876. I’VE HEARD ONE REPORT THAT THIS QUOTE WAS A HOAX, THE INTERNAL MEMO WAS A RECENT FORGERY "Such startling announcements as these should be deprecated as being unworthy of science and mischievious to to its true progress" – Sir William Siemens, 1880, on Edison’s announcement of a sucessful light bulb. "We are probably nearing the limit of all we can know about astronomy." – Simon Newcomb, astronomer, 1888 "Fooling around with alternating current is just a waste of time. Nobody will use it, ever." – Thomas Edison, 1889 "Everything that can be invented has been invented." – Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899. NO, THIS WAS A MISQUOTE, HE NEVER SAID THIS. SKEPTICAL INQUIRER EVEN DEBUNKED THIS. "The more important fundamental laws and facts of physical science have all been discovered, and these are now so firmly established that the possibility of their ever being supplanted in consequence of new discoveries is exceedingly remote…. Our future discoveries must be looked for in the sixth place of decimals." - physicist Albert. A. Michelson, 1894 "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." – Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895. "It is apparent to me that the possibilities of the aeroplane, which two or three years ago were thought to hold the solution to the [flying machine] problem, have been exhausted, and that we must turn elsewhere." – Thomas Edison, 1895 "The demonstration that no possible combination of known substances, known forms of machinery, and known forms of force can be united in a practicable machine by which men shall fly for long distances through the air, seems to the writer as complete as it is possible for the demonstration of any physical fact to be." - astronomer S. Newcomb, 1906 "Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value." – Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre. "Caterpillar landships are idiotic and useless. Those officers and men are wasting their time and are not pulling their proper weight in the war" – Fourth Lord of the British Admiralty, 1915, in regards to use of tanks in war. "Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools." – 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard’s revolutionary rocket work. "The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?" – David Sarnoff’s associates in response to his urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s. "All a trick." "A Mere Mountebank." "Absolute swindler." "Doesn’t know what he’s about." "What’s the good of it?" "What useful purpose will it serve?" – Members of Britain’s Royal Society, 1926, after a demonstration of television. "This foolish idea of shooting at the moon is an example of the absurd lengths to which vicious specialisation will carry scientists." -A.W. Bickerton, physicist, NZ, 1926 "Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?" – H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927. "Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." – Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929. "There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will." – Albert Einstein, 1932 "The energy produced by the atom is a very poor kind of thing. Anyone who expects a source of power from the transformation of these atoms is talking moonshine" – Ernst Rutherford, 1933 "The whole procedure [of shooting rockets into space]…presents difficulties of so fundamental a nature, that we are forced to dismiss the notion as essentially impracticable, in spite of the author’s insistent appeal to put aside prejudice and to recollect the supposed impossibility of heavier-than-air flight before it was actually accomplished." Richard van der Riet Wooley, British astronomer, reviewing P.E. Cleator’s "Rockets in Space", Nature, March 14, 1936 "Space travel is utter bilge!" -Sir Richard Van Der Riet Wolley, astronomer "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." – Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943 "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." – Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949 "I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won’t last out the year." – The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957 "Space travel is bunk" -Sir Harold Spencer Jones, Astronomer Royal of Britain, 1957, two weeks before the launch of Sputnik "There is practically no chance communications space satellites will be used to provide better telephone, telegraph, television, or radio service inside the Unided States." -T. Craven, FCC Commissioner, 1961 "We don’t like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." – Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962. "But what… is it good for?" – Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip. "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." – Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 "The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better than a ‘C,’ the idea must be feasible." – A Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith’s paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.) "I’m just glad it’ll be Clark Gable who’s falling on his face and not Gary Cooper." – Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in"Gone With The Wind." "A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make." – Response to Debbi Fields’ idea of starting Mrs. Fields’ Cookies. "If I had thought about it, I wouldn’t have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can’t do this." – Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3M "Post-It" Notepads. "So we went to Atari and said, ‘Hey, we’ve got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or we’ll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we’ll come work for you.’ And they said, ‘No.’ So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, ‘Hey, we don’t need you. You haven’t got through college yet.’" – Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak’s personal computer. "You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development across all of your muscles? It can’t be done. It’s just a fact of life. You just have to accept inconsistent muscle development as an unalterable condition of weight training." – Response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolvable" problem by inventing Nautilus. "640K ought to be enough for anybody." – Bill Gates, 1981
Once again Jan pulls a favorite pseudoscience technique: Quoting experts who made statements about the possibility of something and were later proven by events or others to be wrong. This technique seeks to falsely associate the quack with the theories, predictions, or great visionaries that were incorrectly rejected by the experts of the day and then later shown to be correct, leading to a change in their field. It’s a very transparent ploy, which Michael Shermer once called "Heresy does not equal correctness." History is full of tales of the lone scientist working in spite of his peers and flying in the face of the doctrines of the day in his or her field of study. The vast majority of … read more »
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Dr. Clark also talked in detail about the pathology of cancer. Briefly her latest finding is that simple food chemicals can trigger the dispersion of hypothalamus cells, pituitary cells and pancreas cells which then travel and fuse to other parts of the body to start tumors. Mind-boggling nonsense.
What’s even mind-boggling is that anyone would believe such pseudoscientific rubbish. More proof of the inadequacy of basic science education in this country. — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is from a report posted on the Curezone. Amazing that people can actually believe this garbage. I got a mail, – have not read all of it yet, but hope it will give you some new information! Meeting with Dr. Clark in New York City By Steve Taylor On August 2, 2003 I was very fortunate to be able to attend a meeting with Dr. Clark and 12 other Clark enthusiasts in New York City. The meeting was held without much prior notice, so it was indeed a rare and seemingly providential occasion. One wonders why this was the case… It is good trade craft to set up meetings on short notice. In this way, the authorities have less of a chance of getting wind of it and sending in their agents.
Indeed. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also. "Doctor Strangelove," "purity of essence," and "precious bodily fluids" come to mind here. Those of you who’ve seen the movie will know exactly what I’m talking about. The obvious solution is to do what the Russians supposedly do (again from the movie)–drink only vodka. 
The average annual consuption of Vodka in Russia would convince you that the country is composed of 100% alcoholics.
It was a joke, Mark…. Dr. Clark also talked in detail about the pathology of cancer. Briefly her latest finding is that simple food chemicals can trigger the dispersion of hypothalamus cells, pituitary cells and pancreas cells which then travel and fuse to other parts of the body to start tumors. What the hell? Does she even know what she is talking about here? "Hypothalamus" cells, "pituitary" cells, and "pancreas" cells do not travel to other parts of the body. Well, at least she is no claiming that they are caused by flukes. What is her experimental evidence for this bizarre assertion? She does not have any. She uses medical buzz words and pseudo-science to rope in the gullible.
Quite true. It does indeed amaze me how thin the veneer of pseudoscience is on her quackery, though–and how that thin a veneer is more than adequate. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dr. Clark also talked about her discovery and use of Homeographic drops. Homeography is a term coined by Dr. Clark and should not be confused with Homeopathy. Homeography is based on the fact that water has the ability to incorporate the frequency pattern of a healthy organ or an antidote. When the drops are taken under the tongue, the new frequency patterns are then superimposed on your own organ, (which may have been missing frequencies due to disease) and thus it seems to have restorative effects. You can make these drops using the information on page 86 in the new "Cure for AIDS and HIV" book by Dr. Clark. You can also order these from www.drclark.com. Homeographic copies of parasites, pathogens and pollutants are used for testing purposes with the Syncrometer and should not be taken internally as it would strengthen the disease you are trying to get rid of! Oh, my goodness. She’s gone totally off the deep end! At least her previous stuff about "parasites" could be made (with some difficulty) to at least sound a little bit plausible. This is totally loony–even loonier than homeopathy, which it’s obviously been adapted from. [Snip] Orac, the forum where I got this accepts her word as gospel. She is a disciple of P. T. Barnum.
Disciple? Hell, she’s done him one better and become the master. — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dr. Clark also talked about her discovery and use of Homeographic drops. Homeography is a term coined by Dr. Clark and should not be confused with Homeopathy. Homeography is based on the fact that water has the ability to incorporate the frequency pattern of a healthy organ or an antidote. When the drops are taken under the tongue, the new frequency patterns are then superimposed on your own organ, (which may have been missing frequencies due to disease) and thus it seems to have restorative effects. You can make these drops using the information on page 86 in the new "Cure for AIDS and HIV" book by Dr. Clark. You can also order these from www.drclark.com. Homeographic copies of parasites, pathogens and pollutants are used for testing purposes with the Syncrometer and should not be taken internally as it would strengthen the disease you are trying to get rid of! Good grief!
I’ll give her credit for taking the utter scientific ridiculousness of the "theory" behind homeopathy and, as Emeril would say, "kicking it up a notch or two." — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dr. Clark also talked about her discovery and use of Homeographic drops. Homeography is a term coined by Dr. Clark and should not be confused with Homeopathy. Homeography is based on the fact that water has the ability to incorporate the frequency pattern of a healthy organ or an antidote. When the drops are taken under the tongue, the new frequency patterns are then superimposed on your own organ, (which may have been missing frequencies due to disease) and thus it seems to have restorative effects. You can make these drops using the information on page 86 in the new "Cure for AIDS and HIV" book by Dr. Clark. You can also order these from www.drclark.com. Homeographic copies of parasites, pathogens and pollutants are used for testing purposes with the Syncrometer and should not be taken internally as it would strengthen the disease you are trying to get rid of! Good grief! Tsu Dho Nimh
Bertha and her are twins….both are completely NUTS! r — "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. Clarke (1917 – ), "Technology and the Future"
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Dr. Clark also talked in detail about the pathology of cancer. Briefly her latest finding is that simple food chemicals can trigger the dispersion of hypothalamus cells, pituitary cells and pancreas cells which then travel and fuse to other parts of the body to start tumors. Mind-boggling nonsense. Peter Moran
Jan’s repeated re-posted drivel of tripe deleted. Otherwise, to quote Jan… ZZZZzzzzzzzz…yawn….snore…..
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Well a lot of "alt" doctrine seems to be based on the beliefs of Graham and Kellogg, both of whom seemed convinced that one of the most important functions of medicine was to keep people from masturbating. Do tell. I hadn’t heard that one before.
Start with <http://www3.azwestern.edu/psy/dgershaw/lol/SexGraham&Kellogg.html. Actually, a Google search on "graham kellogg masturbation" brings up lots of high-quality results (no porn sites among the first hundred).
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Dr. Clark also talked in detail about the pathology of cancer. Briefly her latest finding is that simple food chemicals can trigger the dispersion of hypothalamus cells, pituitary cells and pancreas cells which then travel and fuse to other parts of the body to start tumors. Mind-boggling nonsense. Peter Moran
"..so many centuries after the Creation it is unlikely that anyone could find hitherto unknown lands of any value." - committee advising Ferdinand and Isabella regarding Columbus’ proposal, 1486 "I would sooner believe that two Yankee professors lied, than that stones fell from the sky" – Thomas Jefferson, 1807 on hearing an eyewitness report of falling meteorites. "Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You’re crazy." – Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859. "Louis Pasteur’s theory of germs is ridiculous fiction." – Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872 "The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon." – Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria 1873. "This ‘telephone’ has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us." – Western Union internal memo, 1876. I’VE HEARD ONE REPORT THAT THIS QUOTE WAS A HOAX, THE INTERNAL MEMO WAS A RECENT FORGERY "Such startling announcements as these should be deprecated as being unworthy of science and mischievious to to its true progress" – Sir William Siemens, 1880, on Edison’s announcement of a sucessful light bulb. "We are probably nearing the limit of all we can know about astronomy." – Simon Newcomb, astronomer, 1888 "Fooling around with alternating current is just a waste of time. Nobody will use it, ever." – Thomas Edison, 1889 "Everything that can be invented has been invented." – Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899. NO, THIS WAS A MISQUOTE, HE NEVER SAID THIS. SKEPTICAL INQUIRER EVEN DEBUNKED THIS. "The more important fundamental laws and facts of physical science have all been discovered, and these are now so firmly established that the possibility of their ever being supplanted in consequence of new discoveries is exceedingly remote…. Our future discoveries must be looked for in the sixth place of decimals." - physicist Albert. A. Michelson, 1894 "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." – Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895. "It is apparent to me that the possibilities of the aeroplane, which two or three years ago were thought to hold the solution to the [flying machine] problem, have been exhausted, and that we must turn elsewhere." – Thomas Edison, 1895 "The demonstration that no possible combination of known substances, known forms of machinery, and known forms of force can be united in a practicable machine by which men shall fly for long distances through the air, seems to the writer as complete as it is possible for the demonstration of any physical fact to be." - astronomer S. Newcomb, 1906 "Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value." – Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre. "Caterpillar landships are idiotic and useless. Those officers and men are wasting their time and are not pulling their proper weight in the war" – Fourth Lord of the British Admiralty, 1915, in regards to use of tanks in war. "Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools." – 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard’s revolutionary rocket work. "The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?" – David Sarnoff’s associates in response to his urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s. "All a trick." "A Mere Mountebank." "Absolute swindler." "Doesn’t know what he’s about." "What’s the good of it?" "What useful purpose will it serve?" – Members of Britain’s Royal Society, 1926, after a demonstration of television. "This foolish idea of shooting at the moon is an example of the absurd lengths to which vicious specialisation will carry scientists." -A.W. Bickerton, physicist, NZ, 1926 "Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?" – H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927. "Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau." – Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929. "There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will." – Albert Einstein, 1932 "The energy produced by the atom is a very poor kind of thing. Anyone who expects a source of power from the transformation of these atoms is talking moonshine" – Ernst Rutherford, 1933 "The whole procedure [of shooting rockets into space]…presents difficulties of so fundamental a nature, that we are forced to dismiss the notion as essentially impracticable, in spite of the author’s insistent appeal to put aside prejudice and to recollect the supposed impossibility of heavier-than-air flight before it was actually accomplished." Richard van der Riet Wooley, British astronomer, reviewing P.E. Cleator’s "Rockets in Space", Nature, March 14, 1936 "Space travel is utter bilge!" -Sir Richard Van Der Riet Wolley, astronomer "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." – Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943 "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." – Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949 "I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won’t last out the year." – The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957 "Space travel is bunk" -Sir Harold Spencer Jones, Astronomer Royal of Britain, 1957, two weeks before the launch of Sputnik "There is practically no chance communications space satellites will be used to provide better telephone, telegraph, television, or radio service inside the Unided States." -T. Craven, FCC Commissioner, 1961 "We don’t like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." – Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962. "But what… is it good for?" – Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip. "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." – Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 "The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better than a ‘C,’ the idea must be feasible." – A Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith’s paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.) "I’m just glad it’ll be Clark Gable who’s falling on his face and not Gary Cooper." – Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in"Gone With The Wind." "A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make." – Response to Debbi Fields’ idea of starting Mrs. Fields’ Cookies. "If I had thought about it, I wouldn’t have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can’t do this." – Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3M "Post-It" Notepads. "So we went to Atari and said, ‘Hey, we’ve got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or we’ll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we’ll come work for you.’ And they said, ‘No.’ So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, ‘Hey, we don’t need you. You haven’t got through college yet.’" – Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak’s personal computer. "You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development across all of your muscles? It can’t be done. It’s just a fact of life. You just have to accept inconsistent muscle development as an unalterable condition of weight training." – Response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolvable" problem by inventing Nautilus. "640K ought to be enough for anybody." – Bill Gates, 1981
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Dr. Clark also talked about her discovery and use of Homeographic drops. Homeography is a term coined by Dr. Clark and should not be confused with Homeopathy. Homeography is based on the fact that water has the ability to incorporate the frequency pattern of a healthy organ or an antidote. When the drops are taken under the tongue, the new frequency patterns are then superimposed on your own organ, (which may have been missing frequencies due to disease) and thus it seems to have restorative effects. You can make these drops using the information on page 86 in the new "Cure for AIDS and HIV" book by Dr. Clark. You can also order these from www.drclark.com. Homeographic copies of parasites, pathogens and pollutants are used for testing purposes with the Syncrometer and should not be taken internally as it would strengthen the disease you are trying to get rid of!
Good grief! Tsu Dho Nimh — When businesses invoke the "protection of consumers," it’s a lot like politicians invoking morality and children – grab your wallet and/or your kid and run for your life.
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Simple solution – distil the water a few times and you have lost most of the rubbish. Anth
Bingo ! BTW can you use the distillation apparatus to make spirits ?
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I dare say you can – wouldn’t like to try it though – ethanol boils at ~78 – methanol ~65. You would get the methanol 1st, and since there’s no control over what you are boiling out, it’s a bit risky tbh. Anth
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Simple solution – distil the water a few times and you have lost most of the rubbish. Anth Bingo ! BTW can you use the distillation apparatus to make spirits ?
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Orac: This is from a report posted on the Curezone. Amazing that people can actually believe this garbage. I got a mail, – have not read all of it yet, but hope it will give you some new information! Meeting with Dr. Clark in New York City By Steve Taylor On August 2, 2003 I was very fortunate to be able to attend a meeting with Dr. Clark and 12 other Clark enthusiasts in New York City. The meeting was held without much prior notice, so it was indeed a rare and seemingly providential occasion. One wonders why this was the case… Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also. "Doctor Strangelove," "purity of essence," and "precious bodily fluids" come to mind here. Those of you who’ve seen the movie will know exactly what I’m talking about. The obvious solution is to do what the Russians supposedly do (again from the movie)–drink only vodka.
"Mandrake, pour me a drink of grain alcohol and rainwater!" This is such a common principle in the pro-alt psyche that you wonder if they all suffer from post-coital depression. I really don’t want to go there…
Yeah, nobody needs images like that floating around in their head. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
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Orac: "Doctor Strangelove," "purity of essence," and "precious bodily fluids" come to mind here. Those of you who’ve seen the movie will know exactly what I’m talking about. The obvious solution is to do what the Russians supposedly do (again from the movie)–drink only vodka. This is such a common principle in the pro-alt psyche that you wonder if they all suffer from post-coital depression.
Well a lot of "alt" doctrine seems to be based on the beliefs of Graham and Kellogg, both of whom seemed convinced that one of the most important functions of medicine was to keep people from masturbating.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Orac: "Doctor Strangelove," "purity of essence," and "precious bodily fluids" come to mind here. Those of you who’ve seen the movie will know exactly what I’m talking about. The obvious solution is to do what the Russians supposedly do (again from the movie)–drink only vodka. This is such a common principle in the pro-alt psyche that you wonder if they all suffer from post-coital depression. Well a lot of "alt" doctrine seems to be based on the beliefs of Graham and Kellogg, both of whom seemed convinced that one of the most important functions of medicine was to keep people from masturbating.
Did you get that, Atlas, Stuart, & MedTools? Stop wanking!
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Dr. Clark also talked in detail about the pathology of cancer. Briefly her latest finding is that simple food chemicals can trigger the dispersion of hypothalamus cells, pituitary cells and pancreas cells which then travel and fuse to other parts of the body to start tumors.
Mind-boggling nonsense. Peter Moran
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This is such a common principle in the pro-alt psyche that you wonder if they all suffer from post-coital depression. I really don’t want to go there… Yeah, nobody needs images like that floating around in their head.
W C Fields preempted Hulda. He wouldn’t drink the water. Fish f–k in it. Peter Moran – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Orac: "Doctor Strangelove," "purity of essence," and "precious bodily fluids" come to mind here. Those of you who’ve seen the movie will know exactly what I’m talking about. The obvious solution is to do what the Russians supposedly do (again from the movie)–drink only vodka. This is such a common principle in the pro-alt psyche that you wonder if they all suffer from post-coital depression. Well a lot of "alt" doctrine seems to be based on the beliefs of Graham and Kellogg, both of whom seemed convinced that one of the most important functions of medicine was to keep people from masturbating.
Do tell. I hadn’t heard that one before. — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is from a report posted on the Curezone. Amazing that people can actually believe this garbage. I got a mail, – have not read all of it yet, but hope it will give you some new information! Meeting with Dr. Clark in New York City By Steve Taylor On August 2, 2003 I was very fortunate to be able to attend a meeting with Dr. Clark and 12 other Clark enthusiasts in New York City. The meeting was held without much prior notice, so it was indeed a rare and seemingly providential occasion. One wonders why this was the case…
It is good trade craft to set up meetings on short notice. In this way, the authorities have less of a chance of getting wind of it and sending in their agents. Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also. "Doctor Strangelove," "purity of essence," and "precious bodily fluids" come to mind here. Those of you who’ve seen the movie will know exactly what I’m talking about. The obvious solution is to do what the Russians supposedly do (again from the movie)–drink only vodka.
The average annual consuption of Vodka in Russia would convince you that the country is composed of 100% alcoholics. [Snip] Dr. Clark also talked in detail about the pathology of cancer. Briefly her latest finding is that simple food chemicals can trigger the dispersion of hypothalamus cells, pituitary cells and pancreas cells which then travel and fuse to other parts of the body to start tumors. What the hell? Does she even know what she is talking about here? "Hypothalamus" cells, "pituitary" cells, and "pancreas" cells do not travel to other parts of the body.
Well, at least she is no claiming that they are caused by flukes. What is her experimental evidence for this bizarre assertion?
She does not have any. She uses medical buzz words and pseudo-science to rope in the gullible. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [Snip] Dr. Clark also talked about her discovery and use of Homeographic drops. Homeography is a term coined by Dr. Clark and should not be confused with Homeopathy. Homeography is based on the fact that water has the ability to incorporate the frequency pattern of a healthy organ or an antidote. When the drops are taken under the tongue, the new frequency patterns are then superimposed on your own organ, (which may have been missing frequencies due to disease) and thus it seems to have restorative effects. You can make these drops using the information on page 86 in the new "Cure for AIDS and HIV" book by Dr. Clark. You can also order these from www.drclark.com. Homeographic copies of parasites, pathogens and pollutants are used for testing purposes with the Syncrometer and should not be taken internally as it would strengthen the disease you are trying to get rid of! Oh, my goodness. She’s gone totally off the deep end! At least her previous stuff about "parasites" could be made (with some difficulty) to at least sound a little bit plausible. This is totally loony–even loonier than homeopathy, which it’s obviously been adapted from. [Snip]
Orac, the forum where I got this accepts her word as gospel. She is a disciple of P. T. Barnum.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Orac: This is from a report posted on the Curezone. Amazing that people can actually believe this garbage. I got a mail, – have not read all of it yet, but hope it will give you some new information! Meeting with Dr. Clark in New York City By Steve Taylor On August 2, 2003 I was very fortunate to be able to attend a meeting with Dr. Clark and 12 other Clark enthusiasts in New York City. The meeting was held without much prior notice, so it was indeed a rare and seemingly providential occasion. One wonders why this was the case… Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also. "Doctor Strangelove," "purity of essence," and "precious bodily fluids" come to mind here. Those of you who’ve seen the movie will know exactly what I’m talking about. The obvious solution is to do what the Russians supposedly do (again from the movie)–drink only vodka. This is such a common principle in the pro-alt psyche that you wonder if they all suffer from post-coital depression.
I really don’t want to go there… — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"
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Simple solution – distil the water a few times and you have lost most of the rubbish. Anth
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is from a report posted on the Curezone. Amazing that people can actually believe this garbage. I got a mail, – have not read all of it yet, but hope it will give you some new information! Meeting with Dr. Clark in New York City By Steve Taylor
[Snip] – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dr. Clark also talked about her discovery and use of Homeographic drops. Homeography is a term coined by Dr. Clark and should not be confused with Homeopathy. Homeography is based on the fact that water has the ability to incorporate the frequency pattern of a healthy organ or an antidote. When the drops are taken under the tongue, the new frequency patterns are then superimposed on your own organ, (which may have been missing frequencies due to disease) and thus it seems to have restorative effects. You can make these drops using the information on page 86 in the new "Cure for AIDS and HIV" book by Dr. Clark. You can also order these from www.drclark.com. Homeographic copies of parasites, pathogens and pollutants are used for testing purposes with the Syncrometer and should not be taken internally as it would strengthen the disease you are trying to get rid of! Oh, my goodness. She’s gone totally off the deep end! At least her previous stuff about "parasites" could be made (with some difficulty) to at least sound a little bit plausible. This is totally loony–even loonier than homeopathy, which it’s obviously been adapted from. My! you sure protest a lot. Business getting bad? Not enough people want you drugs? Not making enough money?
Your feeble attempt at demonizing me runs up against the simple fact that how much money I make does not depend on how many patients I treat, how many drugs I prescribe, or how many surgeries I do. I work on a straight salary for a state academic institution. I could make a lot more in private practice, but choose not to because I believe I can do more good trying to advance medicine through research. — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"
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Orac: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is from a report posted on the Curezone. Amazing that people can actually believe this garbage. I got a mail, – have not read all of it yet, but hope it will give you some new information! Meeting with Dr. Clark in New York City By Steve Taylor On August 2, 2003 I was very fortunate to be able to attend a meeting with Dr. Clark and 12 other Clark enthusiasts in New York City. The meeting was held without much prior notice, so it was indeed a rare and seemingly providential occasion. One wonders why this was the case… Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also. "Doctor Strangelove," "purity of essence," and "precious bodily fluids" come to mind here. Those of you who’ve seen the movie will know exactly what I’m talking about. The obvious solution is to do what the Russians supposedly do (again from the movie)–drink only vodka.
This is such a common principle in the pro-alt psyche that you wonder if they all suffer from post-coital depression. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -[Snip]
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is from a report posted on the Curezone. Amazing that people can actually believe this garbage. I got a mail, – have not read all of it yet, but hope it will give you some new information! Meeting with Dr. Clark in New York City By Steve Taylor On August 2, 2003 I was very fortunate to be able to attend a meeting with Dr. Clark and 12 other Clark enthusiasts in New York City. The meeting was held without much prior notice, so it was indeed a rare and seemingly providential occasion. One wonders why this was the case… Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also. "Doctor Strangelove," "purity of essence," and "precious bodily fluids" come to mind here. Those of you who’ve seen the movie will know exactly what I’m talking about. The obvious solution is to do what the Russians supposedly do (again from the movie)–drink only vodka. [Snip] Dr. Clark also talked in detail about the pathology of cancer. Briefly her latest finding is that simple food chemicals can trigger the dispersion of hypothalamus cells, pituitary cells and pancreas cells which then travel and fuse to other parts of the body to start tumors. What the hell? Does she even know what she is talking about here? "Hypothalamus" cells, "pituitary" cells, and "pancreas" cells do not travel to other parts of the body. What is her experimental evidence for this bizarre assertion? [Snip] Dr. Clark also talked about her discovery and use of Homeographic drops. Homeography is a term coined by Dr. Clark and should not be confused with Homeopathy. Homeography is based on the fact that water has the ability to incorporate the frequency pattern of a healthy organ or an antidote. When the drops are taken under the tongue, the new frequency patterns are then superimposed on your own organ, (which may have been missing frequencies due to disease) and thus it seems to have restorative effects. You can make these drops using the information on page 86 in the new "Cure for AIDS and HIV" book by Dr. Clark. You can also order these from www.drclark.com. Homeographic copies of parasites, pathogens and pollutants are used for testing purposes with the Syncrometer and should not be taken internally as it would strengthen the disease you are trying to get rid of! Oh, my goodness. She’s gone totally off the deep end! At least her previous stuff about "parasites" could be made (with some difficulty) to at least sound a little bit plausible. This is totally loony–even loonier than homeopathy, which it’s obviously been adapted from. [Snip] — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"
My! you sure protest a lot. Business getting bad? Not enough people want you drugs? Not making enough money?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This is from a report posted on the Curezone. Amazing that people can actually believe this garbage. I got a mail, – have not read all of it yet, but hope it will give you some new information! Meeting with Dr. Clark in New York City By Steve Taylor On August 2, 2003 I was very fortunate to be able to attend a meeting with Dr. Clark and 12 other Clark enthusiasts in New York City. The meeting was held without much prior notice, so it was indeed a rare and seemingly providential occasion.
One wonders why this was the case… Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also.
"Doctor Strangelove," "purity of essence," and "precious bodily fluids" come to mind here. Those of you who’ve seen the movie will know exactly what I’m talking about. The obvious solution is to do what the Russians supposedly do (again from the movie)–drink only vodka. [Snip] Dr. Clark also talked in detail about the pathology of cancer. Briefly her latest finding is that simple food chemicals can trigger the dispersion of hypothalamus cells, pituitary cells and pancreas cells which then travel and fuse to other parts of the body to start tumors.
What the hell? Does she even know what she is talking about here? "Hypothalamus" cells, "pituitary" cells, and "pancreas" cells do not travel to other parts of the body. What is her experimental evidence for this bizarre assertion? [Snip] Dr. Clark also talked about her discovery and use of Homeographic drops. Homeography is a term coined by Dr. Clark and should not be confused with Homeopathy. Homeography is based on the fact that water has the ability to incorporate the frequency pattern of a healthy organ or an antidote. When the drops are taken under the tongue, the new frequency patterns are then superimposed on your own organ, (which may have been missing frequencies due to disease) and thus it seems to have restorative effects. You can make these drops using the information on page 86 in the new "Cure for AIDS and HIV" book by Dr. Clark. You can also order these from www.drclark.com. Homeographic copies of parasites, pathogens and pollutants are used for testing purposes with the Syncrometer and should not be taken internally as it would strengthen the disease you are trying to get rid of!
Oh, my goodness. She’s gone totally off the deep end! At least her previous stuff about "parasites" could be made (with some difficulty) to at least sound a little bit plausible. This is totally loony–even loonier than homeopathy, which it’s obviously been adapted from. [Snip] — Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?"
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This is from a report posted on the Curezone. Amazing that people can actually believe this garbage. I got a mail, – have not read all of it yet, but hope it will give you some new information! Meeting with Dr. Clark in New York City By Steve Taylor On August 2, 2003 I was very fortunate to be able to attend a meeting with Dr. Clark and 12 other Clark enthusiasts in New York City. The meeting was held without much prior notice, so it was indeed a rare and seemingly providential occasion. Dr. Clark started the meeting by stating the she was very happy and that she wanted to share some of her latest findings with us and also that she needed our help. Dr. Clark is very concerned about our municipal water supply in the United States. She has found 5 substances in our water that can inhibit the immune system and feels this contributes largely to diseases such as Cancer and AIDS. Full recovery from either Cancer or AIDS is likely only with pure, unpolluted water to drink. For those of us not suffering from such conditions, our livers and kidneys can filter out some of these pollutants for a while, but we would eventually be at risk also. The five substances polluting our water that she is most concerned about are PCB’s, benzene, asbestos, azo dyes, and heavy metals. The worst pollutant seems to be azo dyes (there are at least 18 of them). Dr. Clark has not found a way to remove them from the body. The most likely source for PCB’s, benzene and azo dyes may well be common laundry bleach. The main ingredient (sodium hypochlorite) is not the problem. The additives (brighteners and whiteners) and solvents are the problem. To verify this she needs us to send water samples to her for testing. At the end of this message is a detailed instruction about how to collect water samples. She would also like us to see if there are pumping stations separate from the main water plant and if so take a picture of it and send it with the water sample. She suspects that the source of the pollution may not be the main facility, but may instead be the outlying pumping stations. I strongly encourage all of you to help Dr. Clark and send water samples to her! Until the problem can be found and corrected at the source, there are a few procedures you can do to protect yourself if you have municipal water. First boil the tap water (a rolling boil for at least 1 minute) to remove the chlorine, PCB’s and benzene and then once cool, filter it using a carbon filter to remove the heavy metals. PCB’s can clog water filters and make contamination worse if boiling is not done. Drinking bottled water is usually not a good solution either, as bleach or other solvents are often used to clean the bottles and equipment at the plant. Well water may be all right so long as the well is not drilled using laundry bleach to disinfect the drill. Dr. Clark has also found the same immune destroyers present in many of our supplements. Apparently laundry bleach is used to disinfect equipment at the plant too. So it is best to only take supplements that are tested for such pollutants. Dr. Clark also talked in detail about the pathology of cancer. Briefly her latest finding is that simple food chemicals can trigger the dispersion of hypothalamus cells, pituitary cells and pancreas cells which then travel and fuse to other parts of the body to start tumors. One of the food chemicals that seem to play a big role in cancer is chlorogenic acid. It is found in unripe fruits, dairy products, fried and undercooked potatoes and coffee. Cooking destroys the chemical. It is found to have an allergic effect for the hypothalamus, which contributes to the tumor nucleus for all tumors. Phloridzin is an allergen for the pituitary and is present in apples, soy products, pork, and unripe fruit. It initiates the tumor nucleus for all cancers. Again, cooking destroys the chemical. Gallic acid is an allergen for the pancreas. It is present in all grains and in oils that are preserved with propyl gallate. Again, cooking destroys it. Dr. Clark has found that onions are essential for the survival of Fasciolopsis, the parasite that is usually found with cancer. Many other food chemicals also contribute to specific cancers and can be found on page 627 of the new "Cure for HIV and AIDS" book by Dr. Clark. Apparently eating the same foods daily, especially if it is one of those above, puts you at risk for cancer. So it is best to eat a wide variety of foods. Cooked food seems to cause less of an allergic response and of course, keeping your liver and kidneys in good condition by doing liver flushes and kidney cleanses, the parasite program and zapping is your best defense against cancer. Dr. Clark also talked about her discovery and use of Homeographic drops. Homeography is a term coined by Dr. Clark and should not be confused with Homeopathy. Homeography is based on the fact that water has the ability to incorporate the frequency pattern of a healthy organ or an antidote. When the drops are taken under the tongue, the new frequency patterns are then superimposed on your own organ, (which may have been missing frequencies due to disease) and thus it seems to have restorative effects. You can make these drops using the information on page 86 in the new "Cure for AIDS and HIV" book by Dr. Clark. You can also order these from www.drclark.com. Homeographic copies of parasites, pathogens and pollutants are used for testing purposes with the Syncrometer and should not be taken internally as it would strengthen the disease you are trying to get rid of! My discussion in this email is merely a brief summation of the information Dr. Clark gave to us that day. And while that information was fascinating and very valuable, it was even more of a pleasure for those that attended, just to be with Dr. Clark. She was like a mother or grandmother to us all, just wanting to be sure that we were all well. She was a real delight and special treat for all of us! Sincerely, Steve How to Test for PCB and Benzene In Your Drinking Water Find a plastic pail or large bowl. Rinse it without using soap. Place the pail in a warm place where it won’t be disturbed, like on the kitchen counter. Run
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