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How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside? I was only confirmed on Monday, and now I’m worried about a pain in my toe that appeared today – is gangrene next? I have an ache in the back of my thigh – is it Mononeuropathy? (see thread called Nwuropathy). Just like reading the medical encyclopedia, but I have something to base the fears upon I’m reading as much as I can, on the web, in this NG, just got the Gretchen Becker book from Amazon etc, and I’m scaring myself shitless! I saw a poster in the docor’s giving the percentages of diabetics that suffer various complications such as blindness and impotence and felt sick. I know it is probably natural, but does it ever go away? I feel like reaching for the bottle of duty free 57% vodka I got a few months ago, but haven’t opened yet. I know I shouldn’t, but I have felt like it. I’ll give it to my mate at the weekend to remove the temptation. He’s going to love me – there are probably another couple of bottles about the house that I should also dispose of. The thing that’s worrying me most is the thought that my 12 year old daughter is next in line – there have been at least 3 generations in the family with T2, so I assume she is high risk. She’s also a bit on the chunky side. I’ve not talked to her about the diagnosis yet – I think she’s old enough to know what’s wrong with me, but don’t want to frighten her with the old "if you don’t lose weight, you’ll end up like this too" routine. Any advice? Thanks for listening – I can see there are a lot of good people out there with advice to give – it is much more relevant if I know it’s come from someone who’s gone through the same TIA Chris Q
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside? I was only confirmed on Monday, and now I’m worried about a pain in my toe that appeared today – is gangrene next? I have an ache in the back of my thigh – is it Mononeuropathy? (see thread called Nwuropathy). Just like reading the medical encyclopedia, but I have something to base the fears upon I’m reading as much as I can, on the web, in this NG, just got the Gretchen Becker book from Amazon etc, and I’m scaring myself shitless! I saw a poster in the docor’s giving the percentages of diabetics that suffer various complications such as blindness and impotence and felt sick. I know it is probably natural, but does it ever go away? I feel like reaching for the bottle of duty free 57% vodka I got a few months ago, but haven’t opened yet. I know I shouldn’t, but I have felt like it. I’ll give it to my mate at the weekend to remove the temptation. He’s going to love me – there are probably another couple of bottles about the house that I should also dispose of. The thing that’s worrying me most is the thought that my 12 year old daughter is next in line – there have been at least 3 generations in the family with T2, so I assume she is high risk. She’s also a bit on the chunky side. I’ve not talked to her about the diagnosis yet – I think she’s old enough to know what’s wrong with me, but don’t want to frighten her with the old "if you don’t lose weight, you’ll end up like this too" routine. Any advice? Thanks for listening – I can see there are a lot of good people out there with advice to give – it is much more relevant if I know it’s come from someone who’s gone through the same TIA Chris Q
Just a quick response, on my way to bed If you have a parent with T2, you have a 40% chance of being T2 at some stage in your life. VBH (T2) Dx(17-Oct-03) : A1c 10.2 : 102Kg Latest : A1c: 6.1 : 86Kg : Met 3×500
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Chris Quinn said this… How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside? I was only confirmed on Monday, and now I’m worried about a pain in my toe that appeared today – is gangrene next? I have an ache in the back of my thigh – is it Mononeuropathy? (see thread called Nwuropathy). Just like reading the medical encyclopedia, but I have something to base the fears upon
Fucking well calm down. Gangrene is what happens when people neglect their diabetes, their limbs and then develop ulcers. It can take years for that sort of progression, and most diabetics never encounter it. Same for those with neuropathy who act like arseholes and walk round barefoot, then get splinters or other stuff embedded in their feet. If you go to the podiatrist every so often (get referred by the GP or hospital) they are trained to spot these problems early. Neuropathy is a multi-headed beast and as well as Al’s definitions it can be broken down again into motor, sensory and autonomic. It usually presents in the extremities first as numbness and possibly pain. Caught early enough, it can be tackled effectively. You have an ailment called back ache. If it persists, go to the bloody doctor and stop obsessing over medical encyclopaedias or imagining it’s terminal this that or the other. I’m reading as much as I can, on the web, in this NG, just got the Gretchen Becker book from Amazon etc, and I’m scaring myself shitless! I saw a poster in the docor’s giving the percentages of diabetics that suffer various complications such as blindness and impotence and felt sick.
And that drops every year. Well managed diabetics develop few if any complications. Those that do can be treated. Most of the complication sufferers are those from the bad old days of poor treatment or just plain old undiagnosed until too late diabetics. I know it is probably natural, but does it ever go away? I feel like reaching for the bottle of duty free 57% vodka I got a few months ago, but haven’t opened yet. I know I shouldn’t, but I have felt like it. I’ll give it to my mate at the weekend to remove the temptation. He’s going to love me – there are probably another couple of bottles about the house that I should also dispose of.
Just don’t drink it with sugary mixers. Vodka in moderation is no problem. The thing that’s worrying me most is the thought that my 12 year old daughter is next in line – there have been at least 3 generations in the family with T2, so I assume she is high risk. She’s also a bit on the chunky side. I’ve not talked to her about the diagnosis yet – I think she’s old enough to know what’s wrong with me, but don’t want to frighten her with the old "if you don’t lose weight, you’ll end up like this too" routine. Any advice?
Stick the word "might" into the above and tell her that. And get her checked too at some stage. There have been T2s reported in the US and here as young as 10. Thanks for listening – I can see there are a lot of good people out there with advice to give – it is much more relevant if I know it’s come from someone who’s gone through the same
Step back and breathe. Being all neurotic won’t do you any good, in fact it raises the BG level. Keep an eye on the BGs, take care of your legs and the only time you need worry about gangrene is roughly about a week after you snuff it from old age. Ratty — Life’s Rich Pageant www.flyingrat.net
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How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside? I was only confirmed on Monday, and now I’m worried about a pain in my toe that appeared today – is gangrene next?
No bloody chance of gangrene in 3 days. I have an ache in the back of my thigh – is it Mononeuropathy? (see thread called Nwuropathy). Just like reading the medical encyclopedia, but I have something to base the fears upon
I wish I never mentioned the different kinds, now. Let me stress, mononeuropathy is RARE. At most 1 in 50,000, and that’s the terminal idiots who take no care. You came here, so you are not a terminal idiot. I’m reading as much as I can, on the web, in this NG, just got the Gretchen Becker book from Amazon etc, and I’m scaring myself shitless! I saw a poster in the docor’s giving the percentages of diabetics that suffer various complications such as blindness and impotence and felt sick.
That poster is about the many many people who are the terminal idiot types. One thing has never ever been in short supply – morons. I know it is probably natural, but does it ever go away?
There is nothing *natural* about diabetes, that is a put-down offered by people who ought to know better. Some of us laugh at the diagnosis, make the necessary changes, and get on with life. Some reject it and suffer the consequences, you turned yourself into a hypochondriac. I feel like reaching for the bottle of duty free 57% vodka I got a few months ago, but haven’t opened yet. I know I shouldn’t, but I have felt like it. I’ll give it to my mate at the weekend to remove the temptation. He’s going to love me – there are probably another couple of bottles about the house that I should also dispose of. The thing that’s worrying me most is the thought that my 12 year old daughter is next in line – there have been at least 3 generations in the family with T2, so I assume she is high risk. She’s also a bit on the chunky side. I’ve not talked to her about the diagnosis yet – I think she’s old enough to know what’s wrong with me, but don’t want to frighten her with the old "if you don’t lose weight, you’ll end up like this too" routine. Any advice?
She isn’t going to develop t2 at the age of 12. Encourage her to eat less sweeties, less crisps, more salad. Thanks for listening – I can see there are a lot of good people out there with advice to give – it is much more relevant if I know it’s come from someone who’s gone through the same TIA
Diabetes is NOT a death sentence. Pleny of people live 50 or more years without any complications – but that’s the ones who reacted with their head, not their adrenal glands. Calm yourself, start thinking not fearing. Al.
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Al Hardy said this… She isn’t going to develop t2 at the age of 12. Encourage her to eat less sweeties, less crisps, more salad.
I’d disagree there Al. T2 is starting to present in young adults, and in rare cases as early as 10. If there is a family history then I would say monitoring on an infrequent basis won’t hurt at all, and will do miracles if it catches it early. Obesity is the biggest factor in the equation. Ratty — Life’s Rich Pageant www.flyingrat.net
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside? I was only confirmed on Monday, and now I’m worried about a pain in my toe that appeared today – is gangrene next? I have an ache in the back of my thigh – is it Mononeuropathy? (see thread called Nwuropathy). Just like reading the medical encyclopedia, but I have something to base the fears upon I’m reading as much as I can, on the web, in this NG, just got the Gretchen Becker book from Amazon etc, and I’m scaring myself shitless! I saw a poster in the docor’s giving the percentages of diabetics that suffer various complications such as blindness and impotence and felt sick. I know it is probably natural, but does it ever go away? I feel like reaching for the bottle of duty free 57% vodka I got a few months ago, but haven’t opened yet. I know I shouldn’t, but I have felt like it. I’ll give it to my mate at the weekend to remove the temptation. He’s going to love me – there are probably another couple of bottles about the house that I should also dispose of. The thing that’s worrying me most is the thought that my 12 year old daughter is next in line – there have been at least 3 generations in the family with T2, so I assume she is high risk. She’s also a bit on the chunky side. I’ve not talked to her about the diagnosis yet – I think she’s old enough to know what’s wrong with me, but don’t want to frighten her with the old "if you don’t lose weight, you’ll end up like this too" routine. Any advice? Thanks for listening – I can see there are a lot of good people out there with advice to give – it is much more relevant if I know it’s come from someone who’s gone through the same TIA Chris Q
I was reading Gretchen Becker’s first year book last night. I suggest you check out table 1. I think it is on day 5 or somewhere close. I’ll check later and post if I can. It gives the probability over time of eye problems in relation to A1c. If you check the left column – with an A1c of 6, you will notice that over the 15 years, the probability never goes over 2%. IOW control stops complications. The bad figures that you have seen on posters are scare tactics to get people to deal with the condition. This is because there are so many out there who do not deal with the beast and they are the ones who get hit hardest by the complications. (See the table’s right hand column) It does depend to some extent and some random factors(no, I am not saying that anyone who has complications has bad control), but generally speaking control avoids problems. Many problems can also be reversed to a large extent if detected at diagnosis. As for telling your daughter, in most cases, people will not take a lot of notice under those circumstances. 12 year olds are bulletproof, or so they think! If she is concerned though, take a look at Gretchen’s other book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0717136612/qid=1079688744/sr… Paranoia and depression are common enough when you are dxed. You are having to take in a lot of info and deal with a lot of life-changing stuff. However, as you learn more and get used to things, it’ll fade. Knowledge is power so keep reading and you should be more assured. Keep posting concerns though because hopefully the group can kill em all off. A quick question: Does anyone have a link to stats on incidence of nephropathy and neuropathy in T2, related to A1c? VBH Dx(Oct-03) : A1c 10.2 : 102Kg Latest : A1c: 6.1 : 85Kg : Met 3×500
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Al Hardy said this… She isn’t going to develop t2 at the age of 12. Encourage her to eat less sweeties, less crisps, more salad. I’d disagree there Al. T2 is starting to present in young adults, and in rare cases as early as 10. If there is a family history then I would say monitoring on an infrequent basis won’t hurt at all, and will do miracles if it catches it early. Obesity is the biggest factor in the equation. Ratty
Somehwere lurking in the dark and mysterious depths of my HD I have a report claiming that young t2s are 18% likely to be wrongly dxed LADA. I’ll try to find it, but for the moment, Seti is more important to me. Certainly obesity is more important in t2 than genetics. Al.
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Chris Welcome to the club 
How long it takes you to accept your diagnoses is up to you with your attitude etc, the secret is to find out what is involved and adapt your eating habits. There is no reason not to have a drink or eat any particular food just as long as everything is done in moderation. I doubt you have any complications at your early stage of diagnoses. Look on the positive side Just think of all the people that have NO complications from their diabetes. Watch your diet and make sure you exercise. Best wishes Sue type1 39 yrs no complications
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How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside? I was only confirmed on Monday, and now I’m worried about a pain in my toe that appeared today – is gangrene next? I have an ache in the back of my thigh – is it Mononeuropathy? (see thread called Nwuropathy). Just like reading the medical encyclopedia, but I have something to base the fears upon
Chris, rest assured that by keeping your bg’s as close to non diabetic numbers as possible, you can prevent complications.Even neuropathy has been known to disappear when control is gained. If you are deadly serious about avoiding complications then you should find gaining that control a lot easier. It isn’t like smoking where you have a few years up your sleeves, diabetes related damage can be pretty quick but certainly not overnight. As long as your current aim is to get bg’s down to normal relatively quickly then you have a better chance than a lot of people who remain ignorant of proper diabetic care.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Al Hardy said this… She isn’t going to develop t2 at the age of 12. Encourage her to eat less sweeties, less crisps, more salad. I’d disagree there Al. T2 is starting to present in young adults, and in rare cases as early as 10. If there is a family history then I would say monitoring on an infrequent basis won’t hurt at all, and will do miracles if it catches it early. Obesity is the biggest factor in the equation. Ratty Somehwere lurking in the dark and mysterious depths of my HD I have a report claiming that young t2s are 18% likely to be wrongly dxed LADA. I’ll try to find it, but for the moment, Seti is more important to me. Certainly obesity is more important in t2 than genetics. Al.
There’s a theory that the obesity is caused by the genetics. VBH Dx(Oct-03) : A1c 10.2 : 102Kg Latest : A1c: 6.1 : 85Kg : Met 3×500
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Thanks for the virtual slap round the gob – it’s probably exactly what I needed. I was having a bad night last night – most of it non-DM related, and obviously hit the self pity stage with a vengance. I have had a crap week at work with viruses and such hitting our systems – I am the IT department, so I’ve been working my nuts off. I am having a bad time at home – big meeting of shit and fan last night, then the diagnosis on top, and I can’t even go out and get pissed to take my mind off it all. Such is life! I know that forewarned is forearmed, so I’m trying to do the osmosis bit on all of the info doing the rounds, and am surprised how little I know – I thought I had a good idea of what DM was all about previously, having done a biology degree and having it in the family, but how wrong was I! I realised that I have never really discussed DM with my mum – type 2 for a couple of years, with eye problems – she was diagnosed several years after I moved out, and I don’t even know what medication she’s on! I suppose it wasn’t relevant to me until this week – just ask her how she’s doing each time I visit, and stop buying her choccies for christmas etc. She’s back from holiday today, so I’ll be picking her brain over the weekend I suppose as a scouser that someone should be telling me to Calm Down! Did you know that today is International Scouse day? I can’t even have a bowl of that – too many root veggies! My BG seems to be getting better – fasting level down to about 12 today after being 18.6 at diagnosis, so hopefully things will start to improve. Keeping my chin (and hopefully my pecker) up Cheers Chris
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Chris Quinn said this… How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside? I was only confirmed on Monday, and now I’m worried about a pain in my toe that appeared today – is gangrene next? I have an ache in the back of my thigh – is it Mononeuropathy? (see thread called Nwuropathy). Just like reading the medical encyclopedia, but I have something to base the fears upon Fucking well calm down. Gangrene is what happens when people neglect their diabetes, their limbs and then develop ulcers. It can take years for that sort of progression, and most diabetics never encounter it. Same for those with neuropathy who act like arseholes and walk round barefoot, then get splinters or other stuff embedded in their feet. If you go to the podiatrist every so often (get referred by the GP or hospital) they are trained to spot these problems early. Neuropathy is a multi-headed beast and as well as Al’s definitions it can be broken down again into motor, sensory and autonomic. It usually presents in the extremities first as numbness and possibly pain. Caught early enough, it can be tackled effectively. You have an ailment called back ache. If it persists, go to the bloody doctor and stop obsessing over medical encyclopaedias or imagining it’s terminal this that or the other. I’m reading as much as I can, on the web, in this NG, just got the Gretchen Becker book from Amazon etc, and I’m scaring myself shitless! I saw a poster in the docor’s giving the percentages of diabetics that suffer various complications such as blindness and impotence and felt sick. And that drops every year. Well managed diabetics develop few if any complications. Those that do can be treated. Most of the complication sufferers are those from the bad old days of poor treatment or just plain old undiagnosed until too late diabetics. I know it is probably natural, but does it ever go away? I feel like reaching for the bottle of duty free 57% vodka I got a few months ago, but haven’t opened yet. I know I shouldn’t, but I have felt like it. I’ll give it to my mate at the weekend to remove the temptation. He’s going to love me – there are probably another couple of bottles about the house that I should also dispose of. Just don’t drink it with sugary mixers. Vodka in moderation is no problem. The thing that’s worrying me most is the thought that my 12 year old daughter is next in line – there have been at least 3 generations in the family with T2, so I assume she is high risk. She’s also a bit on the chunky side. I’ve not talked to her about the diagnosis yet – I think she’s old enough to know what’s wrong with me, but don’t want to frighten her with the old "if you don’t lose weight, you’ll end up like this too" routine. Any advice? Stick the word "might" into the above and tell her that. And get her checked too at some stage. There have been T2s reported in the US and here as young as 10. Thanks for listening – I can see there are a lot of good people out there with advice to give – it is much more relevant if I know it’s come from someone who’s gone through the same Step back and breathe. Being all neurotic won’t do you any good, in fact it raises the BG level. Keep an eye on the BGs, take care of your legs and the only time you need worry about gangrene is roughly about a week after you snuff it from old age. Ratty — Life’s Rich Pageant www.flyingrat.net
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How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside? I was only confirmed on Monday, and now I’m worried about a pain in my toe that appeared today – is gangrene next? No bloody chance of gangrene in 3 days.
Nah, it takes 4 days at least. ;-p I see Ratty has already done a bit of virtual slapping (shame I enjoy doing that 
) so I’ll just add in that the one thing you cannot afford to loose is your sense of humour. You now know exactly what you have to face but none of it is going to cause you to keel over tomorrow or the next day. Look on the bright side, you could be run over by a bus well before you ever get close to dying of something diabetes related. ;-p Soon you will settle into a ‘normal’ routine and other hassles will take over – life goes on, even when you have diabetes. — Emma – The Chocolate Monster The Alternative Gallery – http://altgallery.shows.it ChocMonsters Ebay clearout has started!- http://tinyurl.com/3xkrz
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I’ve not talked to her about the diagnosis yet – I think she’s old enough to know what’s wrong with me, but don’t want to frighten her with the old "if you don’t lose weight, you’ll end up like this too" routine. Any advice?
Do talk to her, explain what has happened and how it is going to effect your life from now on. Let her see your testing equipment and how it works. Hopefully you won’t be experiencing hypos but it might be good to warn her how to deal with something just in case anything happens. She’s probably already picked up that something is going on, we all know kids aren’t stupid. She might even have friends at school who have relations with diabetes who she can share experiences with. As for her, then I’d just keep an eye on what she eats and encourage her to do more exercise. Maybe now the days are getting lighter you could go for walks together or even get a couple of bikes? — Emma – The Chocolate Monster The Alternative Gallery – http://altgallery.shows.it ChocMonsters Ebay clearout has started!- http://tinyurl.com/3xkrz
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As a footnote on kids picking things up, you do not want her getting the wrong idea and thinking it is something worse than it is so an explanation without too much delay might be better to avoid any panic. Oh and as well as relatives of friends she may even know a T1 personally. (I did for a while at primary)
Kids pick up vibes before they pick up words. Make sure you’ve calmed down and relaxed a little yourself before you try to reassure her. Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. — Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve not talked to her about the diagnosis yet – I think she’s old enough to know what’s wrong with me, but don’t want to frighten her with the old "if you don’t lose weight, you’ll end up like this too" routine. Any advice? Do talk to her, explain what has happened and how it is going to effect your life from now on. Let her see your testing equipment and how it works. Hopefully you won’t be experiencing hypos but it might be good to warn her how to deal with something just in case anything happens. She’s probably already picked up that something is going on, we all know kids aren’t stupid. She might even have friends at school who have relations with diabetes who she can share experiences with. As for her, then I’d just keep an eye on what she eats and encourage her to do more exercise. Maybe now the days are getting lighter you could go for walks together or even get a couple of bikes? — Emma – The Chocolate Monster
As a footnote on kids picking things up, you do not want her getting the wrong idea and thinking it is something worse than it is so an explanation without too much delay might be better to avoid any panic. Oh and as well as relatives of friends she may even know a T1 personally. (I did for a while at primary) VBH Dx(Oct-03) : A1c 10.2 : 102Kg Latest : A1c: 6.1 : 85Kg : Met 3×500
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I had scouse in me mums last night paid for it with a 12.5 spike last nite but I can only give up so many things in life . its good to read and be paranoid about all the things that can happen to us because if I didn’t read here I would never know what to as doctor about. I might not have all the debilitating dieses but from a prev post (Nwuropathy) I am having a test to see if statin is affecting me Dr just added it on to regular test to review my medication. Allen
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside? I was only confirmed on Monday, and now I’m worried about a pain in my toe that appeared today – is gangrene next? I have an ache in the back of my thigh – is it Mononeuropathy? (see thread called Nwuropathy). Just like reading the medical encyclopedia, but I have something to base the fears upon I’m reading as much as I can, on the web, in this NG, just got the Gretchen Becker book from Amazon etc, and I’m scaring myself shitless! I saw a poster in the docor’s giving the percentages of diabetics that suffer various complications such as blindness and impotence and felt sick. I know it is probably natural, but does it ever go away? I feel like reaching for the bottle of duty free 57% vodka I got a few months ago, but haven’t opened yet. I know I shouldn’t, but I have felt like it. I’ll give it to my mate at the weekend to remove the temptation. He’s going to love me – there are probably another couple of bottles about the house that I should also dispose of. The thing that’s worrying me most is the thought that my 12 year old daughter is next in line – there have been at least 3 generations in the family with T2, so I assume she is high risk. She’s also a bit on the chunky side. I’ve not talked to her about the diagnosis yet – I think she’s old enough to know what’s wrong with me, but don’t want to frighten her with the old "if you don’t lose weight, you’ll end up like this too" routine. Any advice? Thanks for listening – I can see there are a lot of good people out there with advice to give – it is much more relevant if I know it’s come from someone who’s gone through the same TIA Chris Q
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CUT ONLY FOR BREVITY. How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside?
Don’t worry about moaning, it’s normal. Anyway you’ll be long dead before the paranoia goes away Donnie.
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00:17:52 Fri, 19 Mar 2004alt.support.diabetes.uk How long does it take for the paranoia induced by a new diagnosis to subside?
The shock is something that many people never get over, because they go into ‘denial’ instead… others, who dwell on it, get depressed, then come out the other side when they decide to take control and develop a strategy that can work for who they are, and gain in self-esteem as they improve their health. You decide. I was only confirmed on Monday, and now I’m worried about a pain in my toe that appeared today – is gangrene next? I have an ache in the back of my thigh – is it Mononeuropathy? (see thread called Nwuropathy). Just like reading the medical encyclopedia, but I have something to base the fears upon
Welcome to the club, I suppose. 
The good news is, it needn’t be too bad, or can at least be limited or delayed a lot, many of us think. I’m reading as much as I can, on the web, in this NG, just got the Gretchen Becker book from Amazon etc, and I’m scaring myself shitless!
Good! So you’re going to do something about it, are you? I saw a poster in the docor’s giving the percentages of diabetics that suffer various complications such as blindness and impotence and felt sick.
It is a very serious condition, but you do have the potential to have a considerable degree of control over it, in fact. Note that at diagnosis, most diabetics, it appears, may have been out of control for an average of 6.5 years and many already have significant damage to various organs as a result. Some of this can be reversed with good control. I know it is probably natural, but does it ever go away? I feel like reaching for the bottle of duty free 57% vodka I got a few months ago, but haven’t opened yet. I know I shouldn’t, but I have felt like it.
Vodka, if not sweet, being alcoholic, might lower your blood glucose levels; a glass with a meal may actually help you until you learn how to avoid those foods that spike your BG levels. I’ll give it to my mate at the weekend to remove the temptation. He’s going to love me – there are probably another couple of bottles about the house that I should also dispose of. The thing that’s worrying me most is the thought that my 12 year old daughter is next in line – there have been at least 3 generations in the family with T2, so I assume she is high risk. She’s also a bit on the chunky side. I’ve not talked to her about the diagnosis yet – I think she’s old enough to know what’s wrong with me, but don’t want to frighten her with the old "if you don’t lose weight, you’ll end up like this too" routine. Any advice?
Start feeding her tuna/cheese/chicken/ham salads, and fewer starchy foods like rice, pasta, potato, cereals, biscuits, sweet snacks, just in case. The old fashioned dietary advice seems the best, in my opinion: eat the meat, skip the potatoes. Get her to walk everywhere, when it’s safe. Don’t push her to take control – like most people, when preached at, she will resent it and rebel: the worst possible outcome, and anyway, she probably isn’t diabetic yet. Instead, lead by example, and maybe talk casually, when it comes up in natural conversation only, about the terrible consequences that can flow from being overweight enough to bring on the disease (only a few kilos may be enough) – but most crucially, without pointing the finger at her. She will make her own mind up. Ideally, you would probably want her to ask you how to help herself, rather than have you trying to force-feed advice on her. A softly-softly approach is my recommendation, therefore. There’s plenty of time. Read Atkins and Bernstein, perhaps. So, I hope you are going to set a good example, first of all. — London, UK Home Page: http://www.tucana.demon.co.uk Web Shop: http://buy.at/tucana Mobile Phone Ring Tones: http://www.ringamoby.com "Everything I do and say with anyone makes a difference." Gita Bellin
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can’t add much to the many fine words here except welcome to the group, stick around and you’ll stay sane and learn lots. I note you’re a techy too – there’s a lot in here so feel free to rant about having a shite IT day, but don’t expect much sympathy because we’ve all been there, done that, reinstalled and rebooted for the ‘n’th time today, repatched the kernel, done yet another Windows update, found that dodgy patch lead at last, etc.! All the best NK T2 on pills – lots of them, but they work.
Cheers mate, Problems with our till systems (DOS workstations on an NT4 network), Netsky and Mydoom on three workstations today, trying to get time to populate our new website, track down potential finger in the till activity, setting up new users, handling phone enquiries coz we’re short staffed, and coping with users who stuff up receipt printers and things, then hide them in the hope that no-one will notice. And that’s all before lunch! Prior to diagnosis I would probably have worked straight through without a lunch break, having had no breakfast, not eating until about 9.00pm. I am now forcing myself to spread the food out during the day to smooth out the BG graph. I am getting a bike tomorrow to start on the exercise – pity I work to far away from home to ride there. I’ll also have to track down the nearest pool to work and see if I can make it there before or after work I’m in a much better mood today, so no more whinging for a while Chris Q
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Can’t add much to the many fine words here except welcome to the group, stick around and you’ll stay sane and learn lots. I note you’re a techy too – there’s a lot in here so feel free to rant about having a shite IT day, but don’t expect much sympathy because we’ve all been there, done that, reinstalled and rebooted for the ‘n’th time today, repatched the kernel, done yet another Windows update, found that dodgy patch lead at last, etc.! All the best NK T2 on pills – lots of them, but they work.
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Cheers mate, Problems with our till systems (DOS workstations on an NT4 network),
Well there’s your first problem – get rid of that NT4 stuff and run off user-level shares from boxes running ME. Won’t be more reliable (really!), but at least you can edit your holiday videos while fault finding. Next you’ll be saying it’s DOS 2 or 2.10 (remember it well). Prior to diagnosis I would probably have worked straight through without a lunch break, having had no breakfast, not eating until about 9.00pm.
Hmmm – TAKE YOUR BREAKS and eat regularly. That’s not just a diabetic thing neither; you’re entitled to your breaks – use them. Have fun, block those thar ports and check the AV stuff’s up to date! NK
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When I arrived, the main data "server" was a windows 98 box with 32Mb of RAM with a shared drive – the domain server was a pentium 150 running NT4 with 64Mb of RAM, serving about 25 workstations and 10 tills, plus acting as an Exchange server! Buying in kit from a bankrupt group of old folks homes doubled our server capacity and power, and gave us an extra 10 workstations – 400 quid the lot, including a fax, photocopier and half a dozen desks! The tills are Dos 6.2 – none of the people that use them are old enough to have ever used Dos – I think of it as an extra security feature! The AV was supposed to be up to date – a managed auto-updating setup from BT of McAfee
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