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Hello: White male, 68 yrs of age. The finding of kidney cysts in both kidneys in 2001 was never brought to my attention. However, a very recent CAT scan, for which I received a print out of, showed the following" "there is a large upper pole cyst measuring 1.9 x 1.3 cm, as well as several smaller 1 cm cysts. "these smaller cysts appear to be more well defined or newer in comparison to previous CAT scan of 2001" I know nothing about kidney cysts, so may I please ask: a.  what are they ? b. sizes they found significant ?  If so, how ?  Do they tend to grow with age ? c. what, if anything, does it lead to, or possibly cause ? d. would having them dis-qualify me from ever donating a kidney ?  Why ? e.  what else should I be asking ? Thanks, B.

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I suggest you ask your doctor.  That’s what I did for explanation of two small csts.  He said don’t worry about ir.  But that is me, NOT you.  Ask someone who knows YOUR situation.  You can’t get it here. On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:44:12 -0500, "Robert11" <rgsxr…@comcast.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hello: >White male, 68 yrs of age. >The finding of kidney cysts in both kidneys in 2001 was never brought to my >attention. >However, a very recent CAT scan, for which I received a print out of, showed >the following" >"there is a large upper pole cyst measuring 1.9 x 1.3 cm, as well as several >smaller 1 cm cysts. >"these smaller cysts appear to be more well defined or newer in comparison >to previous >CAT scan of 2001" >I know nothing about kidney cysts, so may I please ask: >a.  what are they ? >b. sizes they found significant ?  If so, how ?  Do they tend to grow with >age ? >c. what, if anything, does it lead to, or possibly cause ? >d. would having them dis-qualify me from ever donating a kidney ?  Why ? >e.  what else should I be asking ? >Thanks, >B.

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"Robert11" <rgsxr…@comcast.net> wrote: >Hello:

Hello Bob. Please note – I am not a doctor. >White male, 68 yrs of age. >The finding of kidney cysts in both kidneys in 2001 was never brought to my >attention.

It’s normal, by middle age, to have one or two kidney cysts and normal to have one or two more by old age. >However, a very recent CAT scan, for which I received a print out of, showed >the following" >"there is a large upper pole cyst measuring 1.9 x 1.3 cm, as well as several >smaller 1 cm cysts.

"Large" is a relative term: I have a cyst with a diameter of 12cm (yes, 12!  [1]) that’s not causing me any problems. (If it was, they would just stick a great long needle in me and drain it.) >"these smaller cysts appear to be more well defined or newer in comparison >to previous CAT scan of 2001"

The definition of (Adult) Polycystic Kidney disease is "three or more cysts on each kidney" – according to my Nephrologist. It sounds like you are entering that territory to me. DON’T PANIC ! PKD is a degenerative disease, but it’s SLOW – I’m talking decades here. >I know nothing about kidney cysts, so may I please ask: >a.  what are they ?

In structure, a cyst is like a blister: a fluid-filled sac. In formation, it’s more like a spot (zit): a pore-like space that gets blocked off and swells up. A cyst is NOT a tumour: tumours are solid, not fluid-filled. >b. sizes they found significant ?  If so, how ?

"Everything in life is location, location, location." There’s worse things in life than polycystic kidneys – polycystic lungs and polycystic testicles to name two. > Do they tend to grow with age ?

It is the nature of cysts to grow, but not infinitely. PKD is not an age-related disease, indeed there’s a childhood version of it. >c. what, if anything, does it lead to, or possibly cause ?

Severe kidney disease – ***which you do not have***  - leads ***eventually*** to kidney failure. >d. would having them dis-qualify me from ever donating a kidney ?  Why ?

Yes. If surgeons are going to embark on that kind of operation, they won’t want to be messing about with some tired old kidney – sorry. >e.  what else should I be asking ?

"Do I have PKD ?" If yes, you will need to tell your children (if any), and get them scanned too. (PKD is inheritable.) "What is my kidney function (as a percentage) ?" I would guess they’ll tell you it’s about 97%, ie. excellent. You actually *need* about 10%. >Thanks, >B.

[1] According to the latest scan results, my 12cm cyst is only 9cm in diameter, and I seem to have developed a 5cm cancer [2] in only 4 months – which I find bizarre. Hopefully I’ll be able to find out more on Wednesday. [2] I know it’s a cancer rather than a benign tumour because I have VHL, and that’s what VHL does. — Sleepalot   aa #1385

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"Frankenmel" <franken…@aol.comnospam> wrote in message

news:20030613235034.06198.00000528@mb-m27.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >From: "Cori" coriscriv…@hotmail.com > >Date: 6/13/03 7:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time > >Sharon, > >I know about genetic stuff on my biological mother’s side of the family. > >Plus I am in contact with two bio-uncles and two half-sisters, so can keep > >up on her side of the family.  My biological father’s side is a complete > >mystery.  Putting together things she has told me about that period of time > >in her life, I am positive she knows my bio-father’s name.  My sisters > >believe she knows also.  But, there is nothing I can do about that, so I > >have to deal with it.  I believe in preventative medicine, and that does > >help tremendously. > >To this day, I can’t say exactly how I felt growing up knowing I had a > >biological family out in the world somewhere.  I felt and still feel like I > >belong to my adoptive family 100%.  But I do feel that I still have feelings > >buried.  I am afraid to find out what they are.  I am just now feeling > >strong enough to be taken off antidepressants and I do not think it would > >solve anything or accomplish anything to sort that out.  I do know that > >finding, meeting, and getting to know any and all members of my biological > >mother’s side of the family has convinced me more than ever that my parents > >are the people who raised me and I am so very very glad that my bio-family > >did NOT raise me.  I have found out horror stories and am thankful and > >blessed to have the parents and brother that I have. > >I know that on birthdays I wondered if my bio-mother ever thought of me. I > >will acknowledge that emotion.  But the past six years have cured me of that > >emotion/feeling. > >Cori > You’ve probably heard this dozens of times,but it’s really special that you > were chosen. I hope you felt loved growing up. I try to remember the childhood > experiences of people in this group,but only a few stand out in my memory. > Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a > religious epiphany.

Sharon, The love I felt and received as a child is so strong that I can’t explain it.  It is still there.  I got very emotional and sat here with tears when reading the recent thread on what some on this ng went through as children. I couldn’t even fathom some of what I was reading.   I *know* my bio-mother did the right thing for me when she gave me up….that is not an issue for me at all.  I have biological cousins who suffered beatings and molestation by their parents while growing up, so I am thankful I did not grow up in that family. When the doctor was explaining polycystic kidney disease to my Dad he said it was a good thing he didn’t have real children because it is genetic.  I stood up, got all red in the face and climbed up on my soapbox and told the doctor that it doesn’t get any more real than what we have.  I AM his real daughter and blood doesn’t make a difference in our family.  I glanced at my Dad and he gave me this huge wink.  So I then sat down.  LOL Cori

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"Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:Xns9399A1CC85BF1chakolatehotmailcom@128.248.7.54… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Cori" <coriscriv…@hotmail.com> wrote in news:bcbh2v$hnm8v$1@ID- > 188650.news.dfncis.de: > > "Cori" <coriscriv…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:bcbgta$g35ql$1@ID-188650.news.dfncis.de… > >> Thanks for the hug!  I hope your Dad is doing ok.  I will be glad if the > >> liquid IV will help my Dad feel better. > > Dang it.  The above should’ve said liquid iron IV. > It isn’t really funny, is it, what you see just as you hit ’send’? :-P > Chakolate

Yes, sometimes I just sit here and cringe. Cori <lmao>

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"Chakolate" <chakolateDeathToSpamm…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:Xns9399A167AC930chakolatehotmailcom@128.248.7.54… > "Cori" <coriscriv…@hotmail.com> wrote in > news:bcbbbj$glmbq$1@ID-188650.news.dfncis.de: > > My dad was sent to a kidney specialist last week and found out that in > > addition to the beginnings of kidney failure he is severely anemic, > > which is common with kidney failure.  I went to the doctor with dad > > and mom and witnessed the ultrasound….very interesting.  It was > > discovered that dad has "polycystic kidney disease". > My dad also has polycystic kidney disease, and it’s hereditary, so you > might also have it.  The good news is, he’s 81 and not on dialysis, so one > can live with it.  (He was diagnosed with it about 15 years ago.) > Chakolate

Hey Chak….. Won’t be a problem since I’m adopted :-P Glad to hear your Dad is not on dialysis!!  That is great news. Cori

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>From: "Cori" coriscriv…@hotmail.com >Date: 6/13/03 3:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time >Won’t be a problem since I’m adopted :-P

Do you know your birth parents? I’m sorry if we already discussed this. Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.

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"Frankenmel" <franken…@aol.comnospam> wrote in message

news:20030613193839.09109.00001129@mb-m21.aol.com… > >From: "Cori" coriscriv…@hotmail.com > >Date: 6/13/03 3:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time > >Won’t be a problem since I’m adopted :-P > Do you know your birth parents? I’m sorry if we already discussed this. > Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a > religious epiphany.

Sharon, I found my biological mother in November 1996.  She either can’t or won’t tell me who my bio father is.  I don’t currently have a relationship with her, however, I am in contact with my 2 half-sisters, uncles, and aunts. Cori

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>From: "Cori" coriscriv…@hotmail.com >Date: 6/13/03 5:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time >I found my biological mother in November 1996.  She either can’t or won’t >tell me who my bio father is.  I don’t currently have a relationship with >her, however, I am in contact with my 2 half-sisters, uncles, and aunts.

Can you find out information about genetic tendencies,such as diseases? Are you feeling good about having the contact with the other relatives? I’ve always wondered how it would feel to know you had a blood father/mother out there somewhere. Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.

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"Frankenmel" <franken…@aol.comnospam> wrote in message

news:20030613210102.06198.00000515@mb-m27.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> >From: "Cori" coriscriv…@hotmail.com > >Date: 6/13/03 5:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time > >I found my biological mother in November 1996.  She either can’t or won’t > >tell me who my bio father is.  I don’t currently have a relationship with > >her, however, I am in contact with my 2 half-sisters, uncles, and aunts. > Can you find out information about genetic tendencies,such as diseases? Are you > feeling good about having the contact with the other relatives? > I’ve always wondered how it would feel to know you had a blood father/mother > out there somewhere. > Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a > religious epiphany.

Sharon, I know about genetic stuff on my biological mother’s side of the family. Plus I am in contact with two bio-uncles and two half-sisters, so can keep up on her side of the family.  My biological father’s side is a complete mystery.  Putting together things she has told me about that period of time in her life, I am positive she knows my bio-father’s name.  My sisters believe she knows also.  But, there is nothing I can do about that, so I have to deal with it.  I believe in preventative medicine, and that does help tremendously. To this day, I can’t say exactly how I felt growing up knowing I had a biological family out in the world somewhere.  I felt and still feel like I belong to my adoptive family 100%.  But I do feel that I still have feelings buried.  I am afraid to find out what they are.  I am just now feeling strong enough to be taken off antidepressants and I do not think it would solve anything or accomplish anything to sort that out.  I do know that finding, meeting, and getting to know any and all members of my biological mother’s side of the family has convinced me more than ever that my parents are the people who raised me and I am so very very glad that my bio-family did NOT raise me.  I have found out horror stories and am thankful and blessed to have the parents and brother that I have. I know that on birthdays I wondered if my bio-mother ever thought of me.  I will acknowledge that emotion.  But the past six years have cured me of that emotion/feeling. Cori

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->From: "Cori" coriscriv…@hotmail.com >Date: 6/13/03 7:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time >Sharon, >I know about genetic stuff on my biological mother’s side of the family. >Plus I am in contact with two bio-uncles and two half-sisters, so can keep >up on her side of the family.  My biological father’s side is a complete >mystery.  Putting together things she has told me about that period of time >in her life, I am positive she knows my bio-father’s name.  My sisters >believe she knows also.  But, there is nothing I can do about that, so I >have to deal with it.  I believe in preventative medicine, and that does >help tremendously. >To this day, I can’t say exactly how I felt growing up knowing I had a >biological family out in the world somewhere.  I felt and still feel like I >belong to my adoptive family 100%.  But I do feel that I still have feelings >buried.  I am afraid to find out what they are.  I am just now feeling >strong enough to be taken off antidepressants and I do not think it would >solve anything or accomplish anything to sort that out.  I do know that >finding, meeting, and getting to know any and all members of my biological >mother’s side of the family has convinced me more than ever that my parents >are the people who raised me and I am so very very glad that my bio-family >did NOT raise me.  I have found out horror stories and am thankful and >blessed to have the parents and brother that I have. >I know that on birthdays I wondered if my bio-mother ever thought of me.  I >will acknowledge that emotion.  But the past six years have cured me of that >emotion/feeling. >Cori

You’ve probably heard this dozens of times,but it’s really special that you were chosen. I hope you felt loved growing up. I try to remember the childhood experiences of people in this group,but only a few stand out in my memory. Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Cori wrote: >My dad was sent to a kidney specialist last week and found out that in >addition to the beginnings of kidney failure he is severely anemic, which is >common with kidney failure.  I went to the doctor with dad and mom and >witnessed the ultrasound….very interesting.  It was discovered that >dad >has "polycystic kidney disease".  Anyway, my dad had to go to the hospital >this morning for a SIX hour IV session of liquid iron.  I went and picked >them up and mom and I entertained ourselves from 11:00 am until 5:45 pm. >Driving home I realized that I could fall asleep at the wheel!!  (I’m 15 >miles from them.) >Other stuff happened at the hospital that really made me angry and I blew a >ton of energy on that.  In addition to the hot flashes I had.  Made for such >a long day. >I was feeling sorry for myself, but then I thought of dad…he’s the one >going through all of the doctors visits, etc. >Thank you for listening. >Cori

(((((Cori)))))     Its so hard to not be able to fix things for elderly parents.  My Dad is the bionic man.  He has had 2 heart bypasses, stints in his heart, stints in his one remaining kidney, both carotoid (sp?) arteries replaced…..geez, he is held together by plastic. Now, he is depressed because my Mom, ( his mate of 60 years ) has alzheimers.  His depression is pretty sad to witness. He wont get any help for it ( stuborn old man syndrome) and the only thing I can do is try to talk to him, and try to have him over here alot.   I get so pissed off some days to think that this is what you get at the end of the game. They saved money all their lives to live out their *golden years* and have a little freedom and fun. Now, all the bucks go to a nursing home, and she is left with no mind, and he lives each day in depression and sorrow.   I hate it, I rage at it sometimes. I know exactly how you feel.   Wench

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"Thelittlewench" <thelittlewe…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20030614111756.05587.00000875@mb-m26.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> (((((Cori))))) >     Its so hard to not be able to fix things for elderly parents.  My Dad is > the bionic man.  He has had 2 heart bypasses, stints in his heart, stints in > his one remaining kidney, both carotoid (sp?) arteries replaced…..geez, he is > held together by plastic. Now, he is depressed because my Mom, ( his mate of 60 > years ) has alzheimers.  His depression is pretty sad to witness. He wont get > any help for it ( stuborn old man syndrome) and the only thing I can do is try > to talk to him, and try to have him over here alot. >   I get so pissed off some days to think that this is what you get at the end > of the game. They saved money all their lives to live out their *golden years* > and have a little freedom and fun. Now, all the bucks go to a nursing home, and > she is left with no mind, and he lives each day in depression and sorrow. >   I hate it, I rage at it sometimes. I know exactly how you feel. >   Wench

Your Dad sounds like a tough cookie!  He has sure been through a lot.  I am so sorry about your parents.  It is so hard watching them go through illnesses, isn’t it.  One of my Dad’s friends says "Getting old ain’t for sissies". Cori

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Gail" <pa…@nac.net> wrote in message news:3ee93266_1@nntp2.nac.net… > Sorry you had such a tough day. My cousin had polycystic kidney disease and > received a kidney transplant from my sister two years ago. He is doing very > well. Don’t despair. > Gail > "Cori" <coriscriv…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:bcbbbj$glmbq$1@ID-188650.news.dfncis.de… > > My dad was sent to a kidney specialist last week and found out that in > > addition to the beginnings of kidney failure he is severely anemic, which > is > > common with kidney failure.  I went to the doctor with dad and mom and > > witnessed the ultrasound….very interesting.  It was discovered that dad > > has "polycystic kidney disease".  Anyway, my dad had to go to the hospital > > this morning for a SIX hour IV session of liquid iron.  I went and picked > > them up and mom and I entertained ourselves from 11:00 am until 5:45 pm. > > Driving home I realized that I could fall asleep at the wheel!!  (I’m 15 > > miles from them.) > > Other stuff happened at the hospital that really made me angry and I blew > a > > ton of energy on that.  In addition to the hot flashes I had.  Made for > such a long day. > > I was feeling sorry for myself, but then I thought of dad…he’s the one > > going through all of the doctors visits, etc. > > Thank you for listening. > > Cori

Gail, I am very glad your cousin is doing well….that is good news.  I left a lot out of my post because I didn’t want it to be so darn long…..my dad isn’t a candidate for a transplant.  He is 86 years old and in very poor health. He received three additional prescriptions at the kidney drs, so he now has eleven prescriptions. Cori

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"Frankenmel" <franken…@aol.comnospam> wrote in message

news:20030612222455.08014.00000468@mb-m16.aol.com… > {{{{{Cori}}}}}}}} > I’m so sorry for what you’re going through. > Please feel free to vent as much as you need! > Take care. > Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a > religious epiphany.

Thank you Sharon.  It’s tough, but I am so glad that I am in the same town as my parents and able to help them. Cori

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"FurPaw" <furpawnews…@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:3EE93984.2000509@comcast.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Cori wrote: > > My dad was sent to a kidney specialist last week and found out that in > > addition to the beginnings of kidney failure he is severely anemic, which is > > common with kidney failure.  I went to the doctor with dad and mom and > > witnessed the ultrasound….very interesting.  It was discovered that dad > > has "polycystic kidney disease".  Anyway, my dad had to go to the hospital > > this morning for a SIX hour IV session of liquid iron.  I went and picked > > them up and mom and I entertained ourselves from 11:00 am until 5:45 pm. > > Driving home I realized that I could fall asleep at the wheel!!  (I’m 15 > > miles from them.) > > Other stuff happened at the hospital that really made me angry and I blew a > > ton of energy on that.  In addition to the hot flashes I had.  Made for such > > a long day. > > I was feeling sorry for myself, but then I thought of dad…he’s the one > > going through all of the doctors visits, etc. > > Thank you for listening. > My goodness, Cori, this must have been rough for you.  I hope > things go well for your dad. > On feeling sorry for yourself – you have a good attitude.  It’s > like my husband says when we get stuck in a traffic jam – you > could be the person stuck in the jam, or you could be the person > whose accident caused the jam.  I think of this when I get > irritated about dealing with my dad, who has Parkinson’s.  When I > feel sorry for myself, I think about how awful it must be for him > to have the disease. > {{{{Cori}}}} > FurPaw > — > There’s no reason to give credence to anything spoken above 90 > decibels. > To reply, unleash the dog.

FurPaw, Thanks for the hug!  I hope your Dad is doing ok.  I will be glad if the liquid IV will help my Dad feel better. Cori – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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"Cori" <coriscriv…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:bcbgta$g35ql$1@ID-188650.news.dfncis.de… > FurPaw, > Thanks for the hug!  I hope your Dad is doing ok.  I will be glad if the > liquid IV will help my Dad feel better. > Cori

Dang it.  The above should’ve said liquid iron IV. Cori

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Cori wrote: > "FurPaw" <furpawnews…@comcast.net> wrote in message >>My goodness, Cori, this must have been rough for you.  I hope >>things go well for your dad. >>On feeling sorry for yourself – you have a good attitude.  It’s >>like my husband says when we get stuck in a traffic jam – you >>could be the person stuck in the jam, or you could be the person >>whose accident caused the jam.  I think of this when I get >>irritated about dealing with my dad, who has Parkinson’s.  When I >>feel sorry for myself, I think about how awful it must be for him >>to have the disease. > FurPaw, > Thanks for the hug!  I hope your Dad is doing ok.  I will be glad if the > liquid IV will help my Dad feel better.

I just finished up cleaning up after Dad’s 1 AM bout of diarrhea.   (Happens every week or two.)  I’m drinking a glass of wine and trying very very very hard to take my own advice. :-/ FurPaw — There’s no reason to give credence to anything spoken above 90 decibels. To reply, unleash the dog.

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>From: FurPaw furpawnews…@comcast.net >Date: 6/12/03 10:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time >I just finished up cleaning up after Dad’s 1 AM bout of diarrhea.

Ohhhhhh Furry. ;-( He doesn’t drink coffee,does he? We used to work in a retirement home,and a resident there used to squirt down the hallway. The problem stopped once she stopped the coffee. Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.

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Frankenmel wrote: > He doesn’t drink coffee,does he? We used to work in a retirement home,and a > resident there used to squirt down the hallway. The problem stopped once she > stopped the coffee.

Coffee…. yes, he does.  I hadn’t thought of that.  I wonder if switching him to decaf would help.  I’ll also tell the staff at the adult day care to switch him, since he won’t be able to tell the difference. Thanks for the suggestion! FurPaw — There’s no reason to give credence to anything spoken above 90 decibels. To reply, unleash the dog.

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"FurPaw" <furpawnews…@comcast.net> wrote in message

news:3EE963C7.1090602@comcast.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Cori wrote: > > "FurPaw" <furpawnews…@comcast.net> wrote in message > >>My goodness, Cori, this must have been rough for you.  I hope > >>things go well for your dad. > >>On feeling sorry for yourself – you have a good attitude.  It’s > >>like my husband says when we get stuck in a traffic jam – you > >>could be the person stuck in the jam, or you could be the person > >>whose accident caused the jam.  I think of this when I get > >>irritated about dealing with my dad, who has Parkinson’s.  When I > >>feel sorry for myself, I think about how awful it must be for him > >>to have the disease. > > FurPaw, > > Thanks for the hug!  I hope your Dad is doing ok.  I will be glad if the > > liquid IV will help my Dad feel better. > I just finished up cleaning up after Dad’s 1 AM bout of diarrhea. >   (Happens every week or two.)  I’m drinking a glass of wine and > trying very very very hard to take my own advice. :-/ > FurPaw

FurPaw, (((((((((((((((Furry)))))))))))))) Ohhh man.  My heart goes out to you. Hugs, Cori

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"C. Giesbrecht" <catrink…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:cq3kev4s3gi158u2pa9sc7vf1tctnbonkv@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:02:28 -0700, "Cori" <coriscriv…@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >My dad was sent to a kidney specialist last week and found out that in > >addition to the beginnings of kidney failure he is severely anemic, which is > >common with kidney failure.  I went to the doctor with dad and mom and > >witnessed the ultrasound….very interesting.  It was discovered that dad > >has "polycystic kidney disease".  Anyway, my dad had to go to the hospital > >this morning for a SIX hour IV session of liquid iron.  I went and picked > >them up and mom and I entertained ourselves from 11:00 am until 5:45 pm. > >Driving home I realized that I could fall asleep at the wheel!!  (I’m 15 > >miles from them.) > >Other stuff happened at the hospital that really made me angry and I blew a > >ton of energy on that.  In addition to the hot flashes I had.  Made for such > >a long day. > >I was feeling sorry for myself, but then I thought of dad…he’s the one > >going through all of the doctors visits, etc. > >Thank you for listening. > >Cori > {{{{{{Cori}}}}] > I hope today is better. > I admire your attitude so much, though, and will try to emulate it > next time I’m having a day. > Cathering

Cathering, Thank you.  I hope it is going better with your son. Cori

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"Cori" <coriscriv…@hotmail.com> wrote in news:bcbbbj$glmbq$1@ID-188650.news.dfncis.de: > My dad was sent to a kidney specialist last week and found out that in > addition to the beginnings of kidney failure he is severely anemic, > which is common with kidney failure.  I went to the doctor with dad > and mom and witnessed the ultrasound….very interesting.  It was > discovered that dad has "polycystic kidney disease".  

My dad also has polycystic kidney disease, and it’s hereditary, so you might also have it.  The good news is, he’s 81 and not on dialysis, so one can live with it.  (He was diagnosed with it about 15 years ago.) Chakolate

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"Cori" <coriscriv…@hotmail.com> wrote in news:bcbh2v$hnm8v$1@ID- 188650.news.dfncis.de: > "Cori" <coriscriv…@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:bcbgta$g35ql$1@ID-188650.news.dfncis.de… >> Thanks for the hug!  I hope your Dad is doing ok.  I will be glad if the >> liquid IV will help my Dad feel better. > Dang it.  The above should’ve said liquid iron IV.

It isn’t really funny, is it, what you see just as you hit ’send’? :-P Chakolate

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->From: "Cori" coriscriv…@hotmail.com >Date: 6/12/03 7:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time >My dad was sent to a kidney specialist last week and found out that in >addition to the beginnings of kidney failure he is severely anemic, which is >common with kidney failure.  I went to the doctor with dad and mom and >witnessed the ultrasound….very interesting.  It was discovered that dad >has "polycystic kidney disease".  Anyway, my dad had to go to the hospital >this morning for a SIX hour IV session of liquid iron.  I went and picked >them up and mom and I entertained ourselves from 11:00 am until 5:45 pm. >Driving home I realized that I could fall asleep at the wheel!!  (I’m 15 >miles from them.) >Other stuff happened at the hospital that really made me angry and I blew a >ton of energy on that.  In addition to the hot flashes I had.  Made for such >a long day. >I was feeling sorry for myself, but then I thought of dad…he’s the one >going through all of the doctors visits, etc. >Thank you for listening.

{{{{{Cori}}}}}}}} I’m so sorry for what you’re going through. Please feel free to vent as much as you need! Take care. Sharon…………A warm toll-house cookie is an experience not unlike a religious epiphany.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Cori wrote: > My dad was sent to a kidney specialist last week and found out that in > addition to the beginnings of kidney failure he is severely anemic, which is > common with kidney failure.  I went to the doctor with dad and mom and > witnessed the ultrasound….very interesting.  It was discovered that dad > has "polycystic kidney disease".  Anyway, my dad had to go to the hospital > this morning for a SIX hour IV session of liquid iron.  I went and picked > them up and mom and I entertained ourselves from 11:00 am until 5:45 pm. > Driving home I realized that I could fall asleep at the wheel!!  (I’m 15 > miles from them.) > Other stuff happened at the hospital that really made me angry and I blew a > ton of energy on that.  In addition to the hot flashes I had.  Made for such > a long day. > I was feeling sorry for myself, but then I thought of dad…he’s the one > going through all of the doctors visits, etc. > Thank you for listening.

My goodness, Cori, this must have been rough for you.  I hope things go well for your dad. On feeling sorry for yourself – you have a good attitude.  It’s like my husband says when we get stuck in a traffic jam – you could be the person stuck in the jam, or you could be the person whose accident caused the jam.  I think of this when I get irritated about dealing with my dad, who has Parkinson’s.  When I feel sorry for myself, I think about how awful it must be for him to have the disease. {{{{Cori}}}} FurPaw — There’s no reason to give credence to anything spoken above 90 decibels. To reply, unleash the dog.

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My dad was sent to a kidney specialist last week and found out that in addition to the beginnings of kidney failure he is severely anemic, which is common with kidney failure.  I went to the doctor with dad and mom and witnessed the ultrasound….very interesting.  It was discovered that dad has "polycystic kidney disease".  Anyway, my dad had to go to the hospital this morning for a SIX hour IV session of liquid iron.  I went and picked them up and mom and I entertained ourselves from 11:00 am until 5:45 pm. Driving home I realized that I could fall asleep at the wheel!!  (I’m 15 miles from them.) Other stuff happened at the hospital that really made me angry and I blew a ton of energy on that.  In addition to the hot flashes I had.  Made for such a long day. I was feeling sorry for myself, but then I thought of dad…he’s the one going through all of the doctors visits, etc. Thank you for listening. Cori

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Sorry you had such a tough day. My cousin had polycystic kidney disease and received a kidney transplant from my sister two years ago. He is doing very well. Don’t despair. Gail "Cori" <coriscriv…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:bcbbbj$glmbq$1@ID-188650.news.dfncis.de… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> My dad was sent to a kidney specialist last week and found out that in > addition to the beginnings of kidney failure he is severely anemic, which is > common with kidney failure.  I went to the doctor with dad and mom and > witnessed the ultrasound….very interesting.  It was discovered that dad > has "polycystic kidney disease".  Anyway, my dad had to go to the hospital > this morning for a SIX hour IV session of liquid iron.  I went and picked > them up and mom and I entertained ourselves from 11:00 am until 5:45 pm. > Driving home I realized that I could fall asleep at the wheel!!  (I’m 15 > miles from them.) > Other stuff happened at the hospital that really made me angry and I blew a > ton of energy on that.  In addition to the hot flashes I had.  Made for such > a long day. > I was feeling sorry for myself, but then I thought of dad…he’s the one > going through all of the doctors visits, etc. > Thank you for listening. > Cori

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I think that folks here are just trying to point out that this is not a very good place to search for a donor. Many (most?) of us are in the same boat. I’ll keep your friend in my prayers. ~Lizz Dx: 3/2001-? Awaiting transplant at UCSF

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I was on dialysis 8 years and 8 months and waited on my kidney transplant for 4 years, 1 month, and 18 days.  Sometimes you just have to wait your turn.  Some folks just don’t do as well as others on dialysis.  Much of the time it is due to them not following the fluid and dietary restrictions dialysis requires.  I’m not saying that is the case here but it happens all the time to many dialysis patients. Other times that dialysis patients don’t so well is to chronic health conditions such as diabetes.  There are currently 80,553 people with ESRD waiting in the US today for a kidney transplant.  Some will die waiting. Most will go on dialysis for years waiting for their transplant.  Your friend has been very fortunate having two kidney transplants so far.  I wish her luck on getting her third.  There are some individuals who altruistically donate a kidney to strangers but they are few and far between.  You certainly did no wrong by making your appeal for a kidney donation for her, but the odds against it actually happening are not in your favor.  If your friend is hurting herself by not following the dietary and fluid restrictions she needs help in that respect.  I saw too may dialysis patients premature deaths due to that reason. Good luck in your quest. Larry Liver Transplant July 1992 Kidney Transplant March 2001 Hemodialysis 8 years and 8 months On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:16:58 -0700, "Stanbro" <stan…@ix.netcom.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I was just repeating the information I was given by the woman’s parents. >Evidently she is not doing well on dialysis, and her doctors at Hopkins say >she needs a transplant. She apparently lost her kidneys to polycystic kidney >disease in childhood, and her father donated one kidney (after her second >one failed) which lasted about 15 years but has now ceased to function. For >some reason, dialysis is not working well and she has had to be hospitalized >and is in a great deal of pain. Her doctors at Hopkins seem to think a new >kidney would help, and even if it is only a partial match, they are willing >to try plasmapheresis and various immunosuppressive protocols to keep it >working. As you say, the people who need first transplants and are on the >waiting lists deservedly get first dibs on whatever kidneys become >available. This is why her parents are seeking a directed donor. Their >family and friends have been tested and only a few matches were found, and >all of them have proved unsuitable—one had high proteinuria himself, one >had some kind of chronic blood disease that made him a poor surgical >candidate, and one was told by her husband that he would divorce her if she >gave away a kidney.  No other matches have been found, and that is why they >are appealing to a larger population, in the hope of finding someone who is >willing to make this sacrifice. Naturally there is no reason why anyone >"should" donate a kidney to a total stranger, but apparently there are kind >folks out there who are willing to do so anyway, and it is to these that the >family is appealing. If it were your daughter, wouldn’t you be inclined to >try to save her life? I can’t see that it does any harm to ask. >"Pierre L" <pierro…@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:nPP8a.1279$Xo3.239184@news20.bellglobal.com… >> This woman may have some specific problem we don’t know about. If so, I >> would be interested in knowing what it is. I think the media are somewhat >> responsible for the woeful lack of knowledge about the nature of kidney >> failure and dialysis. Every time an entertainment, sports or other >celebrity >> has kidney failure, the only thing we hear about is that he or she needs a >> kidney transplant asap, with little mention about the thousands upon >> thousands who are also waiting for one. >> Pierre >> "Larry Krzewinski" <larry.kzREMOVE-T…@gte.net> wrote in message >> news:dcv66vcd73bs1hv4sshpvn198pqrvlchke@4ax.com… >> > It is probably the fact that they think dialysis is just so terrible. >> > I have run into that attitude a lot and I think it comes from lack of >> > knowledge about ESRD and dialysis.  Dialysis can be unpleasant and the >> > person with ESRD can feel sick indeed.  Most get over the initial >> > unpleasantness in a fairly short period time and get on with their >> > life.  A few  never do and hence the stigma of "dialysis."  I just >> > think that this woman wants to help her friend and doesn’t realize the >> > magnitude of people that are already on dialysis needing kidneys. >> > ESRD, dialysis, and kidney transplantation usually don’t rear their >> > ugly heads until something happens and they usually remain just below >> > eye level so folks don’t take the time to learn about them until it is >> > too late.  Why learn about something that can be unpleasant unless you >> > really have to? >> > The other day we were asked here for a FAQ.  It would be helpful if >> > there were a FAQ for newbies to kidney failure to read. >> > Larry

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:56:49 GMT, "Opinion8d" <mm…@cox.net> wrote: >"Larry Krzewinski" <larry.kzREMOVE-T…@gte.net> wrote in message >news:dcv66vcd73bs1hv4sshpvn198pqrvlchke@4ax.com… >[snip] >> The other day we were asked here for a FAQ.  It would be helpful if >> there were a FAQ for newbies to kidney failure to read. >> Larry >Hi Larry. >You’re elected. >I would be happy to assist, but bear in mind I am a newbie to news groups >and kidney disease. >Email me privately if you would like to pursue the FAQ further, and let me >know how I can help. >Marie, Caretaker >Mom T2/CRF

The National Kidney Foundation says it better than I ever could.  You can visit their website at: http://www.kidney.org/ There is also much information on kidney transplantation located at the United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS) website located at: http://www.unos.org/ An excellent online guidebook for the recently transplanted is published by UCLA and it located at: http://www.healthcare.ucla.edu/transplant/pdfs/dcbook1.pdf Larry

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I’m glad you replied and didn’t take offense. Of course, we’re all in the same boat – waiting for a kidney, that is. I can’t imagine what it would be like if everyone on dialysis starting publicly appealing for a donor, and if getting one depended on each dialysis patient’s ability to publicize. I would think that if she needs a kidney more than others, for medical reasons, she might get one sooner. If it’s only because dialysis is hard or unpleasant, well, it’s sort of like that for everyone, to some extent. I hope they find a way to get her a kidney soon. It’s a strange situation to be in, when you need a kidney. Unless it comes from a live donor, even just praying for one means someone else has to, well, you know. Even with a live donor, related or not, I don’t know anyone who really likes the idea of someone having to go under the knife and give up a kidney for them. Good luck. Pierre "Stanbro" <stan…@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

news:b40ka4$5vf$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I was just repeating the information I was given by the woman’s parents. > Evidently she is not doing well on dialysis, and her doctors at Hopkins say > she needs a transplant. She apparently lost her kidneys to polycystic kidney > disease in childhood, and her father donated one kidney (after her second > one failed) which lasted about 15 years but has now ceased to function. For > some reason, dialysis is not working well and she has had to be hospitalized > and is in a great deal of pain. Her doctors at Hopkins seem to think a new > kidney would help, and even if it is only a partial match, they are willing > to try plasmapheresis and various immunosuppressive protocols to keep it > working. As you say, the people who need first transplants and are on the > waiting lists deservedly get first dibs on whatever kidneys become > available. This is why her parents are seeking a directed donor. Their > family and friends have been tested and only a few matches were found, and > all of them have proved unsuitable—one had high proteinuria himself, one > had some kind of chronic blood disease that made him a poor surgical > candidate, and one was told by her husband that he would divorce her if she > gave away a kidney.  No other matches have been found, and that is why they > are appealing to a larger population, in the hope of finding someone who is > willing to make this sacrifice. Naturally there is no reason why anyone > "should" donate a kidney to a total stranger, but apparently there are kind > folks out there who are willing to do so anyway, and it is to these that the > family is appealing. If it were your daughter, wouldn’t you be inclined to > try to save her life? I can’t see that it does any harm to ask.

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Pierre- I read an interesting article a while back about people advertising for their own donors… one man had a single reply to a classified ad he placed, and that stranger was a PERFECT match. Anyway, that article also commented that it could become a marketing campagin, and that young, attractive patients might do well to try this method to garner some attention. I’ve certainly considered it myself!

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Young and attractive eh? I guess that leaves me out :) Pierre "Lizz Parsons" <nos…@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:5h186vccm570eis2qcar02u1vj0gseo3ra@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Pierre- > I read an interesting article a while back about people advertising > for their own donors… one man had a single reply to a classified ad > he placed, and that stranger was a PERFECT match. > Anyway, that article also commented that it could become a marketing > campagin, and that young, attractive patients might do well to try > this method to garner some attention. I’ve certainly considered it > myself!

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"Larry Krzewinski" <larry.kzREMOVE-T…@gte.net> wrote in message

news:dls76v49asqoet2kn7kraukfq65nmldnqm@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:56:49 GMT, "Opinion8d" <mm…@cox.net> wrote: > >"Larry Krzewinski" <larry.kzREMOVE-T…@gte.net> wrote in message > >news:dcv66vcd73bs1hv4sshpvn198pqrvlchke@4ax.com… > >[snip] > >> The other day we were asked here for a FAQ.  It would be helpful if > >> there were a FAQ for newbies to kidney failure to read. > >> Larry > >Hi Larry. > >You’re elected. > >I would be happy to assist, but bear in mind I am a newbie to news groups > >and kidney disease. > >Email me privately if you would like to pursue the FAQ further, and let me > >know how I can help. > >Marie, Caretaker > >Mom T2/CRF > The National Kidney Foundation says it better than I ever could.  You > can visit their website at: > http://www.kidney.org/ > There is also much information on kidney transplantation located at > the United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS) website located at: > http://www.unos.org/ > An excellent online guidebook for the recently transplanted is > published by UCLA and it located at: > http://www.healthcare.ucla.edu/transplant/pdfs/dcbook1.pdf > Larry

Hi Larry. Thanks. You are a wealth of information. Marie, Caretaker Mom T2/CRF

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Thanks for all the informative postings. I realize it was inappropriate of me to post this request on these NG. I was hoping that persons other than patients might also scan the messages and I was fooled by the scammer who had posted about wanting to donate a kidney (my fault for being too impatient to check out his website) into thinking that potential donors might occasionally check out the postings. Although it may seem to be bad form to try to "jump queue" and find one’s own donor rather than waiting for a cadaver kidney, this family asserts that a surprising number of strangers have responded to their request, at least to the extent of getting themselves tested as potential matches. Unfortunately, no acceptable donor has emerged so far (not matches or excluded for other health problems) but perhaps Sharon has an unsual type and is hard to match. I am as surprised as many of you would seem to be likely to be that total strangers would volunteer for this kind of sacrifice, but apparently there are some really altruistic folk out there.  There are distressing aspects of course–the awkwardness of owing one’s health to a total stranger, the blame and guilt if the donor suffers some mischance as a result of the procedure or later loses the remaining kidney to disease or accident, the ugliness of having organ donation become a "marketing" situation with the rich/cute/famous being able to pay for bigger ads and national media coverage while the ordinary patient has no such opportunities, etc., but life is often distressing and unfair as those with serious illnesses know all too well. For those for whom dialysis isn’t working for some reason and for whom a transplant seems to be a necessity, perhaps it is a strategy to consider. After all, you would not be depriving anyone else of a kidney, since presumably the recruited donor would be volunteering particularly for you (as would a family member) and would not have been likely to just phone up the nearest dialysis center and offer the kidney to whomever was next on the waiting list. As I said, it can’t hurt to ask–or at least it can’t hurt too much, though you may tick some people off, as I have found out! Once again, thanks for all the information, advice, and even the merited comeuppance. I wish all of you well, and hope that either you’ll find your kidney match soon or that dialysis techniques will get better so you can have a less frustrating quality of life. With apologies, Helen Stanbro "Pierre L" <pierro…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:ZYU8a.1976$Or5.373052@news20.bellglobal.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Young and attractive eh? I guess that leaves me out :) > Pierre > "Lizz Parsons" <nos…@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:5h186vccm570eis2qcar02u1vj0gseo3ra@4ax.com… > > Pierre- > > I read an interesting article a while back about people advertising > > for their own donors… one man had a single reply to a classified ad > > he placed, and that stranger was a PERFECT match. > > Anyway, that article also commented that it could become a marketing > > campagin, and that young, attractive patients might do well to try > > this method to garner some attention. I’ve certainly considered it > > myself!

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I think that came out wrong on my end… :-) Pardon me… ~Lizz On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:21:32 -0500, "Pierre L" <pierro…@hotmail.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Young and attractive eh? I guess that leaves me out :) >Pierre >"Lizz Parsons" <nos…@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:5h186vccm570eis2qcar02u1vj0gseo3ra@4ax.com… >> Pierre- >> I read an interesting article a while back about people advertising >> for their own donors… one man had a single reply to a classified ad >> he placed, and that stranger was a PERFECT match. >> Anyway, that article also commented that it could become a marketing >> campagin, and that young, attractive patients might do well to try >> this method to garner some attention. I’ve certainly considered it >> myself!

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On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 01:50:30 GMT, Lizz Parsons <nos…@yahoo.com> wrote: >Pierre- >I read an interesting article a while back about people advertising >for their own donors… one man had a single reply to a classified ad >he placed, and that stranger was a PERFECT match. >Anyway, that article also commented that it could become a marketing >campagin, and that young, attractive patients might do well to try >this method to garner some attention. I’ve certainly considered it >myself!

JPG! <grin>

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On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:42:43 GMT, Lizz Parsons <nos…@yahoo.com> wrote: >I think that came out wrong on my end… :-) >Pardon me…

You’re pardoned, Lizz.  However, we still want to see the JPG. <g> Larry Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.

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;-) On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 07:06:51 GMT, Larry Krzewinski – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<larry.kzREMOVE-T…@gte.net> wrote: >On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 01:50:30 GMT, Lizz Parsons <nos…@yahoo.com> >wrote: >>Pierre- >>I read an interesting article a while back about people advertising >>for their own donors… one man had a single reply to a classified ad >>he placed, and that stranger was a PERFECT match. >>Anyway, that article also commented that it could become a marketing >>campagin, and that young, attractive patients might do well to try >>this method to garner some attention. I’ve certainly considered it >>myself! >JPG! <grin>

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It’s nice that we can laugh. On my IgA Nephropathy support group, I keep telling people that it’s not all gloom and doom on dialysis. I’m not sure if they believe me when I tell them that most patients are really pretty cheerful in the dialysis centre. By the way, there is hope for better treatment in the not too distant future. The kidney research centre in the same building as my dialysis unit is doing a clinical trial on a small hemofiltration machine that could easily be used at home. It’s apparently very gentle on the body, and patients enjoy virtually no dietary restrictions, because it’s done a couple of hours every day. They wanted me to be in the trial, except I hadn’t been on dialysis long enough when the trial started. I do think this looks very promising. Pierre "Larry Krzewinski" <larry.kzREMOVE-T…@gte.net> wrote in message

news:98k86vg8cuido1669mb5guap8up6g1odm6@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 06:42:43 GMT, Lizz Parsons <nos…@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >I think that came out wrong on my end… :-) > >Pardon me… > You’re pardoned, Lizz.  However, we still want to see the JPG. <g> > Larry > Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.

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Why would anyone want a transplant of my BO?

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I was just repeating the information I was given by the woman’s parents. Evidently she is not doing well on dialysis, and her doctors at Hopkins say she needs a transplant. She apparently lost her kidneys to polycystic kidney disease in childhood, and her father donated one kidney (after her second one failed) which lasted about 15 years but has now ceased to function. For some reason, dialysis is not working well and she has had to be hospitalized and is in a great deal of pain. Her doctors at Hopkins seem to think a new kidney would help, and even if it is only a partial match, they are willing to try plasmapheresis and various immunosuppressive protocols to keep it working. As you say, the people who need first transplants and are on the waiting lists deservedly get first dibs on whatever kidneys become available. This is why her parents are seeking a directed donor. Their family and friends have been tested and only a few matches were found, and all of them have proved unsuitable—one had high proteinuria himself, one had some kind of chronic blood disease that made him a poor surgical candidate, and one was told by her husband that he would divorce her if she gave away a kidney.  No other matches have been found, and that is why they are appealing to a larger population, in the hope of finding someone who is willing to make this sacrifice. Naturally there is no reason why anyone "should" donate a kidney to a total stranger, but apparently there are kind folks out there who are willing to do so anyway, and it is to these that the family is appealing. If it were your daughter, wouldn’t you be inclined to try to save her life? I can’t see that it does any harm to ask. "Pierre L" <pierro…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:nPP8a.1279$Xo3.239184@news20.bellglobal.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This woman may have some specific problem we don’t know about. If so, I > would be interested in knowing what it is. I think the media are somewhat > responsible for the woeful lack of knowledge about the nature of kidney > failure and dialysis. Every time an entertainment, sports or other celebrity > has kidney failure, the only thing we hear about is that he or she needs a > kidney transplant asap, with little mention about the thousands upon > thousands who are also waiting for one. > Pierre > "Larry Krzewinski" <larry.kzREMOVE-T…@gte.net> wrote in message > news:dcv66vcd73bs1hv4sshpvn198pqrvlchke@4ax.com… > > It is probably the fact that they think dialysis is just so terrible. > > I have run into that attitude a lot and I think it comes from lack of > > knowledge about ESRD and dialysis.  Dialysis can be unpleasant and the > > person with ESRD can feel sick indeed.  Most get over the initial > > unpleasantness in a fairly short period time and get on with their > > life.  A few  never do and hence the stigma of "dialysis."  I just > > think that this woman wants to help her friend and doesn’t realize the > > magnitude of people that are already on dialysis needing kidneys. > > ESRD, dialysis, and kidney transplantation usually don’t rear their > > ugly heads until something happens and they usually remain just below > > eye level so folks don’t take the time to learn about them until it is > > too late.  Why learn about something that can be unpleasant unless you > > really have to? > > The other day we were asked here for a FAQ.  It would be helpful if > > there were a FAQ for newbies to kidney failure to read. > > Larry

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This woman may have some specific problem we don’t know about. If so, I would be interested in knowing what it is. I think the media are somewhat responsible for the woeful lack of knowledge about the nature of kidney failure and dialysis. Every time an entertainment, sports or other celebrity has kidney failure, the only thing we hear about is that he or she needs a kidney transplant asap, with little mention about the thousands upon thousands who are also waiting for one. Pierre "Larry Krzewinski" <larry.kzREMOVE-T…@gte.net> wrote in message

news:dcv66vcd73bs1hv4sshpvn198pqrvlchke@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It is probably the fact that they think dialysis is just so terrible. > I have run into that attitude a lot and I think it comes from lack of > knowledge about ESRD and dialysis.  Dialysis can be unpleasant and the > person with ESRD can feel sick indeed.  Most get over the initial > unpleasantness in a fairly short period time and get on with their > life.  A few  never do and hence the stigma of "dialysis."  I just > think that this woman wants to help her friend and doesn’t realize the > magnitude of people that are already on dialysis needing kidneys. > ESRD, dialysis, and kidney transplantation usually don’t rear their > ugly heads until something happens and they usually remain just below > eye level so folks don’t take the time to learn about them until it is > too late.  Why learn about something that can be unpleasant unless you > really have to? > The other day we were asked here for a FAQ.  It would be helpful if > there were a FAQ for newbies to kidney failure to read. > Larry

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"Larry Krzewinski" <larry.kzREMOVE-T…@gte.net> wrote in message

news:dcv66vcd73bs1hv4sshpvn198pqrvlchke@4ax.com… [snip] > The other day we were asked here for a FAQ.  It would be helpful if > there were a FAQ for newbies to kidney failure to read. > Larry

Hi Larry. You’re elected. I would be happy to assist, but bear in mind I am a newbie to news groups and kidney disease. Email me privately if you would like to pursue the FAQ further, and let me know how I can help. Marie, Caretaker Mom T2/CRF

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 07:31:17 -0500, "Pierre L" <pierro…@hotmail.com> wrote: >If she has failed kidneys and is on dialysis, what is it that makes locating >a kidney a "desperate" situation? What is special about her case that a >stranger should donate a kidney to her, as opposed to anyone else who is on >the waiting list? >Pierre

It is probably the fact that they think dialysis is just so terrible. I have run into that attitude a lot and I think it comes from lack of knowledge about ESRD and dialysis.  Dialysis can be unpleasant and the person with ESRD can feel sick indeed.  Most get over the initial unpleasantness in a fairly short period time and get on with their life.  A few  never do and hence the stigma of "dialysis."  I just think that this woman wants to help her friend and doesn’t realize the magnitude of people that are already on dialysis needing kidneys. ESRD, dialysis, and kidney transplantation usually don’t rear their ugly heads until something happens and they usually remain just below eye level so folks don’t take the time to learn about them until it is too late.  Why learn about something that can be unpleasant unless you really have to? The other day we were asked here for a FAQ.  It would be helpful if there were a FAQ for newbies to kidney failure to read. Larry

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If she has failed kidneys and is on dialysis, what is it that makes locating a kidney a "desperate" situation? What is special about her case that a stranger should donate a kidney to her, as opposed to anyone else who is on the waiting list? Pierre "Stanbro" <stan…@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

news:b3up5e$2n6$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sharon Sullivan is a 43-yr-old woman who is suffering from kidney failure. > Her family has not succeeded in locating a match for her, and they are > desperately seeking a donor. Sharon is on dialysis at Johns Hopkins > University Hospital in Baltimore MD. If you are between 18 and 60 yrs of > age, in good health, with blood type B or O (Rh-positive or negative), and > would consider donating a kidney to Sharon, please call Kathryn Dane, her > coordinator at Hopkins: > Call 1-888-304-5069 to get to the transplant division. > Then at the prompt, dial 410-614-2988 Kathy Dane, or press option 3 > (Abdominal) and then option 5. > You can also e-mail her at kd…@jhmi.edu. > She can send you a free test kit, which you can take to your doctor who will > draw a small blood sample and send it back to Hopkins, where it will be > tested for compatibility. > If you wish to contact Sharon, her e-mail is Shar…@mvttv.com. > You can also contact her parents (Neil and Marylou Sullivan) at 505-437-7555 > or 505-442-9680 or > clmlsu…@hauns.com > Please respond directly to them. Do not respond to me at my e-mail—I am > just a friend posting this on their behalf until they can join this NG > themselves. > Helen Stanbro

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In article <b3up5e$2n…@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>,  "Stanbro" <stan…@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Please respond directly to them. Do not respond to me at my e-mail—I am > just a friend posting this on their behalf until they can join this NG > themselves.

This is a newsgroup for people with kidney disease, and a bad place to look for donors. I am B-, but hardly a suitable donor for someone wanting working kidneys.

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Sharon Sullivan is a 43-yr-old woman who is suffering from kidney failure. Her family has not succeeded in locating a match for her, and they are desperately seeking a donor. Sharon is on dialysis at Johns Hopkins University Hospital in Baltimore MD. If you are between 18 and 60 yrs of age, in good health, with blood type B or O (Rh-positive or negative), and would consider donating a kidney to Sharon, please call Kathryn Dane, her coordinator at Hopkins: Call 1-888-304-5069 to get to the transplant division. Then at the prompt, dial 410-614-2988 Kathy Dane, or press option 3 (Abdominal) and then option 5. You can also e-mail her at kd…@jhmi.edu. She can send you a free test kit, which you can take to your doctor who will draw a small blood sample and send it back to Hopkins, where it will be tested for compatibility. If you wish to contact Sharon, her e-mail is Shar…@mvttv.com. You can also contact her parents (Neil and Marylou Sullivan) at 505-437-7555 or 505-442-9680 or clmlsu…@hauns.com Please respond directly to them. Do not respond to me at my e-mail—I am just a friend posting this on their behalf until they can join this NG themselves. Helen Stanbro

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Hi All, First, Id like to thank everyone for all the helpful posts and links I have been reading to try to gauge my health problem right now. It really helped me gain some understanding of kidney problems. In Nov I went to my doctor because I have not been feeling well and been very fatigued, irritable, dark circle under my eyes..looking/feeling like hell. My blood tests showed Chol over 300 with a bad lipid ratio over 8  He also found blood and protein in my urine which also concerned him. Retested in Dec and the protein was found again. Went to a urologist last week, took more blood for tests and did a cleancatch that tested with dipstick postive for protein. He examined my kidneys but had no pain or anything. Next month they scheduled a renal ultrasound exam. So thats basically what i know at this point. Next month when I speak with a nephrologist after the next tests are run ( 24 hr, creatine etc ) I will know a lot more about where I stand. In the meantime  and against my better judgement :) – i would like to get some opinions on the serverity of this? Concerned but calm, John

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> Next month when I speak with a nephrologist after the next tests are > run ( 24 hr, creatine etc ) I will know a lot more about where I > stand. In the meantime  and against my better judgement :) – i would > like to get some opinions on the serverity of this?

You are where most of us have been at one time. Being concerned is very normal. Calm is good, because not being so won’t make anything better. Some people, I was told, just naturally leak protein for some unknown reason but don’t have kidney failure, but protein in the urine is the way many people, including me, discovered their kidney disease. The severity differs from person to person. When mine was caught, I was 27 yrs. old, and kidney function was still around 60%. Naturally, at that age I thought I was dead already, but that old solitary kidney lasted another 21 years until I got a transplant. I’m 51 now, 3 years out of transplant, and living a completely normal life (other than taking a zillion pills). I thought I might not live to see 40, and here I am rocking my granddaughter to sleep. Life is good. I can’t speak to dialysis because I didn’t have to do it, but there are many here and at alt.support.kidney-failure and at bit.listerv.transplant who have dialysed and can tell you all about that. The treatment of kidney disease has come a long way in 24 years and seems to be progressing faster and faster. Please find yourself a nephrologist that you are comfortable with and trust. Mine have been very caring and uplifting doctors. Life is not over with kidney disease; but you do have to be willing to make many adjustments. Keeping a positive and optimistic outlook will really go a long way toward preserving your physical and mental health. Best wishes, Jim — Remove the CORK to reply by e-mail.

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Barbara posted the following article in the Patients Support Forum http://brumley.com/renal/patientboard.html Dated  : October 22, 192000 at 20:46:36 Subject: Protein in urine http://brumley.com/renal/patientmessages/9106.html Saw a urologist almost three weeks ago said I showed protein in urine…wants me to see my regular Dr. and have urine checked again….also suggest that I see a Nephrologist…I am concerned about what this could mean…I also had an ultrasound done on kidneys in April says it  shows a cyst but this is not uncommon according to him…would appreciate any input on this matter…THANKS!!!!!

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midge posted the following article in the Patients Support Forum http://brumley.com/renal/patientboard.html Dated  : October 23, 192000 at 16:53:49 Subject: Re: Protein in urine http://brumley.com/renal/patientmessages/9112.html Hi – Protein in your urine indicates your kidneys are not function properly. There are several causes for this. I come from a family with PKD or Polycystic Kidney Disease. I would be very anxious to rule this out. Is your blood pressure high? If so that is another indicator. If I were you I would go directly to a nephrologist – he/she will be the best person to diagnose any problems. Good Luck

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Martha S. posted the following article in the Patients Support Forum http://brumley.com/renal/patientboard.html Dated  : October 24, 192000 at 03:55:12 Subject: Re: Protein in urine http://brumley.com/renal/patientmessages/9119.html Other symptoms of kidney failure might include: – edema, especially swelling of the hands, face,feet, belly, and legs – fatigue – high/low BP – nausea – foul taste in mouth – increased/decreased urine output, including peeing more during the night – muscle cramps or twitching – looking either yellow or white – tanning faster and longer or getting sunburn more easily than normal – being coldcoldcold and – anemia. You might want to visit one of my favorite sites, kidneydirections.com. It’s a good place for info on all aspects of kidney disease, I think. – Martha S.

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I got my kidney tx on August 11, 87.  Was on PD for 19 months, 4 days—got peritonitis 2x—4 exchanges daily—ports were sterilized, gloves & Masks, the whole number, but I wound up with it anyway.  The pain of peritonitis was FAR WORSE than the tx itself!  Because I only weighed 85 pounds, the docs gave me a kid catheter, and you know where that first –how do I describe it?- Band (?) is, right underneath the skin—well, that kept popping through my skin–man, that made my opening so sore—that and taping my tubing in a circular fashion around the entry to "anchor" it in place every day after showering was a true test of strength!  I had the bagless system, which was alot better than the other 4 foot long nightmare!  Always wrapping it around you and trying to shove it into your pocket, ALWAYS with a big shirt/blouse over it—-dialysis sucks!!!!!!!! I’m not sure if my "bean" failed, if I would go back on PD.  My sister-in-law heads up a dialysis clinic, and she said hemo is worse on the body—-I think maybe a cycler at night, I just take my meds every day and pray I keep this bean for as long as possible. Good luck, Jackie! Cindy kidney tx 8/11/87

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Dear kidney failure patients, I recently had a baby boy which has kidney problems, one of his kidneys was full of cyst and the other one has some but not good function to it.  A week after birth he was put on pd, but now his levels are at a point were he may beable to go without the pd for awhile but more then likely will have to continue on it some day. The doctors say he will have to have a transplant one of these days.  What is the dialysis like for you?  This is my first child and this is all really new and scarey for my husband and I.                                          Heather

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Dialysis isn’t fun, but because your little boy is so young, he probably won’t realize what’s going on and won’t remember it later. I would think hemo would be easier on a baby – it surprises me that your docs are using PD, but I really don’t know much about pediatric dialysis. What is the cause of the kidney problems? I realize cysts, but is it polycystic kidney disease, or are the cysts just some freak thing that won’t recur in a transplant? You’re in my prayers – I hope everything goes o.k. and a kidney becomes available soon. "Chad Folkes" <chfol…@webtv.net> wrote in message

news:16174-39DFA5FF-53@storefull-623.iap.bryant.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dear kidney failure patients, > I recently had a baby boy which has kidney > problems, one of his kidneys was full of cyst and the other one has some > but not good function to it.  A week after birth he was put on pd, but > now his levels are at a point were he may beable to go without the pd > for awhile but more then likely will have to continue on it some day. > The doctors say he will have to have a > transplant one of these days.  What is the dialysis like for you?  This > is my first child and this is all really new and scarey for my husband > and I. >                                          Heather

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The docs usually prefer PD for children since their veins are not as well developed. Celeste — =========================================================================== = ========== Carry A Life In Your Pocket, Become An Organ Donor Today!!!!!!! Get Your Organ Donor Card Here ~~~~~~~~~ http://www.TransplantResourcePage.com In the time it takes an average American to commute to and from work — 90 minutes —  someone dies waiting for an organ transplant =========================================================================== = ========== "Dachsie girl" <dachsieg…@fuse.net> wrote in message

news:su3hne5rr4j7c0@corp.supernews.com… | Dialysis isn’t fun, but because your little boy is so young, he probably | won’t realize what’s going on and won’t remember it later. | | I would think hemo would be easier on a baby – it surprises me that your | docs are using PD, but I really don’t know much about pediatric dialysis. | | What is the cause of the kidney problems? I realize cysts, but is it | polycystic kidney disease, or are the cysts just some freak thing that won’t | recur in a transplant? | | You’re in my prayers – I hope everything goes o.k. and a kidney becomes | available soon. | | "Chad Folkes" <chfol…@webtv.net> wrote in message | news:16174-39DFA5FF-53@storefull-623.iap.bryant.webtv.net… | > Dear kidney failure patients, | > | > | > I recently had a baby boy which has kidney | > problems, one of his kidneys was full of cyst and the other one has some | > but not good function to it.  A week after birth he was put on pd, but | > now his levels are at a point were he may beable to go without the pd | > for awhile but more then likely will have to continue on it some day. | > The doctors say he will have to have a | > transplant one of these days.  What is the dialysis like for you?  This | > is my first child and this is all really new and scarey for my husband | > and I. | > | > | > | >                                          Heather | > | |

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ahhhh – makes sense. I didn’t know if children of this age could handle a graft or not. "Celeste" <Cele…@boonies.com> wrote in message

news:OvlE5.31455$XV.1558102@nntp3.onemain.com… > The docs usually prefer PD for children since their veins are not as well > developed. > Celeste > —

=========================================================================== = > ========== > Carry A Life In Your Pocket, Become An Organ Donor Today!!!!!!! > Get Your Organ Donor Card Here ~~~~~~~~~ > http://www.TransplantResourcePage.com > In the time it takes an average American to commute to and from work — 90 > minutes —  someone dies waiting for an organ transplant

=========================================================================== = – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ========== > "Dachsie girl" <dachsieg…@fuse.net> wrote in message > news:su3hne5rr4j7c0@corp.supernews.com… > | Dialysis isn’t fun, but because your little boy is so young, he probably > | won’t realize what’s going on and won’t remember it later. > | > | I would think hemo would be easier on a baby – it surprises me that your > | docs are using PD, but I really don’t know much about pediatric dialysis. > | > | What is the cause of the kidney problems? I realize cysts, but is it > | polycystic kidney disease, or are the cysts just some freak thing that > won’t > | recur in a transplant? > | > | You’re in my prayers – I hope everything goes o.k. and a kidney becomes > | available soon. > | > | "Chad Folkes" <chfol…@webtv.net> wrote in message > | news:16174-39DFA5FF-53@storefull-623.iap.bryant.webtv.net… > | > Dear kidney failure patients, > | > > | > > | > I recently had a baby boy which has kidney > | > problems, one of his kidneys was full of cyst and the other one has some > | > but not good function to it.  A week after birth he was put on pd, but > | > now his levels are at a point were he may beable to go without the pd > | > for awhile but more then likely will have to continue on it some day. > | > The doctors say he will have to have a > | > transplant one of these days.  What is the dialysis like for you? This > | > is my first child and this is all really new and scarey for my husband > | > and I. > | > > | > > | > > | >                                          Heather > | > > | > |

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I’d love to go back on PD. I did it successfully the first time I was on dialysis, but this time for no apparent reason it didn’t work. No infections, nothing out of the ordinary. Now I don’t know if it is worth the time and pain to get another catheter placed to try it. Plus, I like swimming and showering. "Robert Burgess" <bobby…@uswest.net> wrote in message

news:Tttu5.73$n97.158486@news.uswest.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve decided to go back on P.D.  I think it will be gentler on my body > overall.  My dry weight was upped twice and I STILL get sick after dialysis. > — > Robert Burgess

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Dachsie girl wrote:

<I’d love to go back on PD. I did it successfully the first time I was on dialysis, but this time for no apparent reason it didn’t work. No infections, nothing out of the ordinary. Now I don’t know if it is worth the time and pain to get another catheter placed to try it. Plus, I like swimming and showering.> I had the same thing happen to me.  PD went great the first time around and when I needed to go back on dialysis, it was my obvious choice.  We tried to get the labs good for a few months and after getting up to 15 hours on the cycler with 2 exchanges during the day, we gave up!  There was no rhyme or reason to it.  I had no infections or anything out of the ordinary either. It’s not worth going through the process of trying it again, in my opinion. Also I’d like to add that you can take showers while on PD.  I did it all the time and never once had a problem.  As for swimming, I never went during that time because I couldn’t bring myself to get into a swim suit. so I have no knowledge on that one. ~Jackie **kidney~May 18, 2000** Second time around perfect match….WOOHOO

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You’re right – I should have said I liked taking baths. I did shower with the catheter. My docs wanted to try 2.5 liters of solution, but I could barely eat or move with 2 liters in (I’m 5′2”, and weigh about 113 pounds). It’s just tough, ’cause while I couldn’t be as spontaneous as I’d have liked while on PD, forget about doing anything unplanned while on hemo! Plus, I really do badly with the fluid restriction. I used to be pretty good, but as time passes, I just can’t seem to control it anymore. "JAB81571" <jab81…@aol.com> wrote in message

news:20000926063929.26801.00000975@ng-bg1.aol.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dachsie girl wrote: > <I’d love to go back on PD. I did it successfully the first time I was on > dialysis, but this time for no apparent reason it didn’t work. No infections, > nothing out of the ordinary. Now I don’t know if it is worth the time and pain > to get another catheter placed to try it. Plus, I like swimming and showering.> > I had the same thing happen to me.  PD went great the first time around and > when I needed to go back on dialysis, it was my obvious choice.  We tried to > get the labs good for a few months and after getting up to 15 hours on the > cycler with 2 exchanges during the day, we gave up!  There was no rhyme or > reason to it.  I had no infections or anything out of the ordinary either. > It’s not worth going through the process of trying it again, in my opinion. > Also I’d like to add that you can take showers while on PD.  I did it all the > time and never once had a problem.  As for swimming, I never went during that > time because I couldn’t bring myself to get into a swim suit. so I have no > knowledge on that one. > ~Jackie > **kidney~May 18, 2000** > Second time around > perfect match….WOOHOO

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This story may seem unusual but…I would imagine that it happens often. First, I went on P.D. dialysis and was successful for about a year. Caught a nasty case of peritonitis and was rushed into emergency surgery where they removed the catheter. They also had me on I.V. such that I was given no food for four days. After I left the hospital, I went to the dialysis clinic where I was berated for not eating properly.  (I lost 20 pounds). It was determined that I had an ulcer.  (Upper G.I. Bleed)  Since then, I have been eating very well… I am gaining weight very rapidly.   Such that my dry weight must change almost every other week. In short,  I am gaining back the weight I lost in the hospital. Meanwhile, I have been getting sick on dialysis, since they tell me they have to get permission in order to increase my dry weight. Does this seem reasonable.? — Robert Burgess

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My nurses increase my dry weight on their own. Also, you can request a target weight that is different than the "official" dry weight. I hardly ever go for my "official" dry weight, because I almost never make it. (I think mine has increased.) I just ask the nurses to either take off a certain amount, or to go to a certain weight. I am also very involved in the "put-on" and "take-off" procedures of my treatments – I will ask them to dump my blue line (the initial saline you get before you even start dialyzing) or to go light on  my rinse back, so that I’m not getting a whole bunch of extra saline. It can make the treatment a little easier – that’s almost 900 ml of saline that will be taken off, in addition to any weight that I’ve put on. "Robert Burgess" <bobby…@uswest.net> wrote in message

news:FnZp5.1034$83.386458@news.uswest.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This story may seem unusual but…I would imagine that it happens often. > First, I went on P.D. dialysis and was successful for about a year. Caught a > nasty case of peritonitis and was rushed into emergency surgery where they > removed the catheter. > They also had me on I.V. such that I was given no food for four days. > After I left the hospital, I went to the dialysis clinic where I was berated > for not eating properly.  (I lost 20 pounds). > It was determined that I had an ulcer.  (Upper G.I. Bleed) >  Since then, I have been eating very well… I am gaining weight very > rapidly.   Such that my dry weight must change almost every other week. In > short,  I am gaining back the weight I lost in the hospital. > Meanwhile, I have been getting sick on dialysis, since they tell me they > have to get permission in order to increase my dry weight. > Does this seem reasonable.? > — > Robert Burgess

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    This is ridiculous that they are sending you out under weight because they won’t up your dry weight.  Are you aware that if too much is taken off it can shut down your access site.  Usually when you go out under weight your blood pressure is also low and when the pressure drops you can clot off.     You need to contact the doctor NOW and raise all kinds of hell to get this taken care of before you have complications and end up going in for a declot.  Have the doctor make a note on your chart that it’s OK for them to raise or lower your weight on your approval.  My doctor never gave me a problem about doing this.  If I felt I had gained or lost a little the nurses would adjust my weight by a 1/2 a kg till we got it where it should be and I felt OK. Celeste "Robert Burgess" <bobby…@uswest.net> wrote in message

news:FnZp5.1034$83.386458@news.uswest.net… | This story may seem unusual but…I would imagine that it happens often. | | First, I went on P.D. dialysis and was successful for about a year. Caught a | nasty case of peritonitis and was rushed into emergency surgery where they | removed the catheter. | They also had me on I.V. such that I was given no food for four days. | After I left the hospital, I went to the dialysis clinic where I was berated | for not eating properly.  (I lost 20 pounds). | It was determined that I had an ulcer.  (Upper G.I. Bleed) |  Since then, I have been eating very well… I am gaining weight very | rapidly.   Such that my dry weight must change almost every other week. In | short,  I am gaining back the weight I lost in the hospital. | Meanwhile, I have been getting sick on dialysis, since they tell me they | have to get permission in order to increase my dry weight. | Does this seem reasonable.? | | — | Robert Burgess | |

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Robert Burgess <bobby…@uswest.net> wrote:

No Robert, this sounds like petty insistance of beauracracy/protocol… I would make a stand complain.. Why should you suffer when you are being ‘compliant’ and relaticly healthy for it!! // Jim! There is a need for rules, but this is taking it too far! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This story may seem unusual but…I would imagine that it happens often. > First, I went on P.D. dialysis and was successful for about a year. Caught a > nasty case of peritonitis and was rushed into emergency surgery where they > removed the catheter. > They also had me on I.V. such that I was given no food for four days. > After I left the hospital, I went to the dialysis clinic where I was berated > for not eating properly.  (I lost 20 pounds). > It was determined that I had an ulcer.  (Upper G.I. Bleed) >  Since then, I have been eating very well… I am gaining weight very > rapidly.   Such that my dry weight must change almost every other week. In > short,  I am gaining back the weight I lost in the hospital. > Meanwhile, I have been getting sick on dialysis, since they tell me they > have to get permission in order to increase my dry weight. > Does this seem reasonable.?

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Its worth noting that not all units are as flexible as you describe.. Some stick to protocols much more severly, and won’t consider "bleeding out" (t process you describe), give a minimum wash back (depends how much you need those little red guys), or washing back on a high UFR (onother technique I’ve come across!) All the same I would be making some sortt of official complaint if I was coming off light repeatedly. // Jim! To Email, change jahoopa.com to cyberdude.com in my email address – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dachsie girl <michel…@fuse.net> wrote: > My nurses increase my dry weight on their own. Also, you can request a > target weight that is different than the "official" dry weight. I hardly > ever go for my "official" dry weight, because I almost never make it. (I > think mine has increased.) I just ask the nurses to either take off a > certain amount, or to go to a certain weight. > I am also very involved in the "put-on" and "take-off" procedures of my > treatments – I will ask them to dump my blue line (the initial saline you > get before you even start dialyzing) or to go light on  my rinse back, so > that I’m not getting a whole bunch of extra saline. It can make the > treatment a little easier – that’s almost 900 ml of saline that will be > taken off, in addition to any weight that I’ve put on.

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Hi,     I have been hemo for 10 years now, I know when my dry weight has to be upped or lowered, If they give you a hassle about up your dry weight, you tell them to get on the phone to your doctor, or your not having treatment that day, you’ll see how fast they call your doctor, They don’t 1- Want to be responsible if anything happens to you by missing a treatment 2-They don’t want to lose the "money". Be firm, yell if you have to, call the doctor yourself, and tell her or him that your having this problem. The clinic’s don’t believe us when we gain weight, they want "US" to think it is fluid weight, but we know our bodies, and we know the difference, It is just plain laziness on them. GET TOUGH!!!!! remember it is YOUR life they just work for the income…….they see people like us EVERYDAY come & go…….. Take care,              BETSY CHURILLA

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You’re right – I should have qualified my response a bit. My two units are pretty flexible – I transferred to a new unit after I switched jobs and insurance. Because I’m pretty knowledgeable about my blood levels and the dialysis procedure, my nurses give me a little more latitude and honor some of my requests. They are more cautious about my "minimal returns." They do want to make sure I get enough of my blood back, and we’ve discussed how I react to light rinsebacks. (I’m lucky, my hematocrit level is usually pretty good, and isn’t affected by a little loss of rinseback blood.) "Robert Burgess" <bobby…@uswest.net> wrote in message

news:FnZp5.1034$83.386458@news.uswest.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This story may seem unusual but…I would imagine that it happens often. > First, I went on P.D. dialysis and was successful for about a year. Caught a > nasty case of peritonitis and was rushed into emergency surgery where they > removed the catheter. > They also had me on I.V. such that I was given no food for four days. > After I left the hospital, I went to the dialysis clinic where I was berated > for not eating properly.  (I lost 20 pounds). > It was determined that I had an ulcer.  (Upper G.I. Bleed) >  Since then, I have been eating very well… I am gaining weight very > rapidly.   Such that my dry weight must change almost every other week. In > short,  I am gaining back the weight I lost in the hospital. > Meanwhile, I have been getting sick on dialysis, since they tell me they > have to get permission in order to increase my dry weight. > Does this seem reasonable.? > — > Robert Burgess

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Dachsie girl wrote: > My nurses increase my dry weight on their own. Also, you can request a > target weight that is different than the "official" dry weight. I hardly > ever go for my "official" dry weight, because I almost never make it. (I > think mine has increased.) I just ask the nurses to either take off a > certain amount, or to go to a certain weight.

Agreed. But you can often go a step further and learn to run the machine yourself. That’s what I do. Thus I tell them what amount of fluid I’ll lose. > I am also very involved in the "put-on" and "take-off" procedures of my > treatments – I will ask them to dump my blue line (the initial saline you > get before you even start dialyzing) or to go light on  my rinse back, so > that I’m not getting a whole bunch of extra saline. It can make the > treatment a little easier – that’s almost 900 ml of saline that will be > taken off, in addition to any weight that I’ve put on.

I strongly doubt it’s 900ml. They do use a full 1000ml (=Kg=1liter=2.2 lbs) to prime the liens, but most of that is immediately dumped. You cannot afford to have that much fluid outside your body unless you weigh a couple hundred pounds (or more). I thought it was 500ml, but I’ve recently been told the full volume in the tubes plus dialyzer is closer to 300ml. It’s important to be accurate about how much is in the lines because, as you said, that amount, if pumped in must be dialyzed out. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Robert Burgess" <bobby…@uswest.net> wrote in message > news:FnZp5.1034$83.386458@news.uswest.net… > > This story may seem unusual but…I would imagine that it happens often. > > First, I went on P.D. dialysis and was successful for about a year. Caught > a > > nasty case of peritonitis and was rushed into emergency surgery where they > > removed the catheter. > > They also had me on I.V. such that I was given no food for four days. > > After I left the hospital, I went to the dialysis clinic where I was > berated > > for not eating properly.  (I lost 20 pounds). > > It was determined that I had an ulcer.  (Upper G.I. Bleed) > >  Since then, I have been eating very well… I am gaining weight very > > rapidly.   Such that my dry weight must change almost every other week. In > > short,  I am gaining back the weight I lost in the hospital. > > Meanwhile, I have been getting sick on dialysis, since they tell me they > > have to get permission in order to increase my dry weight. > > Does this seem reasonable.? > > — > > Robert Burgess

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I’ve decided to go back on P.D.  I think it will be gentler on my body overall.  My dry weight was upped twice and I STILL get sick after dialysis. — Robert Burgess

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and some feminist groups who (as usual) claimed it would be a denial of womens right to privacy when choosing to have children by this method… Yuck. That’s feminism for ya

You seem to assume that all feminists are identical in their beliefs…as far as I know, beyond a general conviction that women deserve equal rights and should fight for them, the interpretations are as varied as in any doctrine. As a feminist, I have no objection to people fathered by sperm donors making contact with their genetic fathers, and having a parent/child relationship, providing that the father agrees. You must have been talking about a different group of feminists, then. Rupa

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Should each one of those 26 women he impregnated sue him because he didn’t tell her that he had a family history of kidney disease?  (He’d be paying a lot of child support, so suing probably wouldn’t be productive anyway)  Maybe he didn’t know about the kidney disease, or maybe it just never occured to him that it was genetic.

Well, you’ve just proved my point. Whether or not it occured to John Doe-ner that the kidney disease in his family was genetic in origin, it was arguably the clinic’s responsibility to make such a determination. They, unlike the hypothetical Lothario hopping from bed to bed, are assumed to possess the medical knowledge to make such a determination, in fact they bank on it. BTW, BN’s been getting mail from individuals conceived by donated sperm. Perhaps Baster Nation isn’t too far off… And this has to do with getting sued by the mother of your donor offspring for said child contracting a genetic disease how?

Note the letters, BTW. They mean "By the Way". Which means "incidental and peripheral to the main points that went before." I don’t think they should be – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – allowed to be anon, and that’s not what the conversation was about.  It was about suing someone for passing along a genetic condition.  I think I’ll go sue my parents.  Please. Jeannette, Bmom There ain’t no answer. There ain’t going to be any answer. There never has been an answer. That’s the answer. Gertrude Stein (1874-1946)

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Well, you’ve just proved my point. Whether or not it occured to John Doe-ner that the kidney disease in his family was genetic in origin, it was arguably the clinic’s responsibility to make such a determination. They, unlike the hypothetical Lothario hopping from bed to bed, are assumed to possess the medical knowledge to make such a determination, in fact they bank on it.

Pun intended?  ;-) — Peace freedom & justice Deanna

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<snip Should each one of those 26 women he impregnated sue him because he didn’t tell her that he had a family history of kidney disease?  (He’d be paying a lot of child support, so suing probably wouldn’t be productive anyway)  Maybe he didn’t know about the kidney disease, or maybe it just never occured to him that it was genetic.

A clarification: HE KNEW that someone in his family had "kidney disease" and of course that can cover a host of things because he noted that information on the donor data form. Just how much he knew about the specifics and implications of that diagnosis is open to question … according to my understanding at this point. Best wishes.                                                                         Sue T. A new dream:  the best interests of and full equality for all adoptees.

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Oh my. Thanks Deanna.                                                 Sue T. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ~snip~ I’m not quite sure how one would sue God … but I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone try one of these days. Happens already.  :) "The suit alleges that "God, a.k.a. the Creator, a.k.a. the Supreme Being, a.k.a. ‘The Man,’ through the use of individual free will in the creation of human beings, is directly responsible for the shootings." http://www.happypuppy.com/features/bth/bth0813a.html "Donald Drusky, 63, of East McKeesport, Pennsylvania, blames God for failing to bring him justice in a 30-year battle against his former employer, the steelmaker now called USX Corp. " http://teto.sch.bme.hu/~hg5bfm/ENGbizarre.htm#Judge rejects lawsuit against God You’ll need to cut & paste the rejects lawsuit back on.  Enjoy. — Peace freedom & justice Deanna

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THE CLINIC’S responsibility.  Why should she sue the donor? Sue the clinic. How is the donor responsible?  Is my dad responsible for my alcoholism? My mother for my Bi-polar disorder?  Can I sue them for passing that along to me and one or more of my siblings?  Can my kids sue me for passing along those genes?   That was MY point.

The difference between your dad and John Doe-nor is that the latter engaged in a commercial transaction predicated on his giving detailed information concerning his genetic make-up. It’s the same as if he’d sold a house with undisclosed termite damage. Presumably your dad made no revenue in contributing to your conception, and if he did I’m sure there was no implied or explicit warranty. Ron – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jeannette, Bmom There ain’t no answer. There ain’t going to be any answer. There never has been an answer. That’s the answer. Gertrude Stein (1874-1946)

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No prob.  I already knew about the second one, but the first one surprised me when I went to look up said second one. — Peace freedom & justice Deanna

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh my. Thanks Deanna.                                                 Sue T. ~snip~ I’m not quite sure how one would sue God … but I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone try one of these days. Happens already.  :) "The suit alleges that "God, a.k.a. the Creator, a.k.a. the Supreme Being, a.k.a. ‘The Man,’ through the use of individual free will in the creation of human beings, is directly responsible for the shootings." http://www.happypuppy.com/features/bth/bth0813a.html "Donald Drusky, 63, of East McKeesport, Pennsylvania, blames God for failing to bring him justice in a 30-year battle against his former employer, the steelmaker now called USX Corp. " http://teto.sch.bme.hu/~hg5bfm/ENGbizarre.htm#Judge rejects lawsuit against God You’ll need to cut & paste the rejects lawsuit back on.  Enjoy. — Peace freedom & justice Deanna

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and some feminist groups who (as usual) claimed it would be a denial of womens right to privacy when choosing to have children by this method… Yuck. That’s feminism for ya You seem to assume that all feminists are identical in their beliefs…

Naaaa…. That’s *YOUR* assumption (about my POV)….. IOW how do you manage to equate *some = all*? as far as I know, beyond a general conviction that women deserve equal rights and should fight for them, the interpretations are as varied as in any doctrine. As a feminist, I have no objection to people fathered by sperm donors making contact with their genetic fathers, and having a parent/child relationship, providing that the father agrees. You must have been talking about a different group of feminists, then.

OBVIOUSLY…..   ROTFLMOL # One of the reasons for the failure of feminism to dislodge deeply held perceptions of male and female behaviour was its insistence that women were victims, and men powerful patriarchs, which made a travesty of ordinary people

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Hi everybody, I don’t know if I am in the right place or not. But, I was wondering if anyone could tell me some of the symptoms of Polycystic kidney disease.Is it common to have periods of excruciating pain for several days and periods of very few symptoms or none at all. I have not been able to find any detailed info on how constant the symptoms for this disease at all.  There are periods when I am fine, and then there are times where I am very very ill. I have not been diagnosed yet, but they do tell me that I have cysts in my kidneys. I do have a 24 hour urine test that goes in tomorrow, and an appointment for Wednesday with a urologist. I would really appreciate anyone sharing what they know about this disease. I am very confused about how I can be well sometimes and deathly ill at others. Does stress cause the relapses? Thanks! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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look here for infos about pkd http://www.pkdcure.org/

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In NJ there are these transplant centers– Newark Beth Isreal Medical Center Newark NJ Our Lady of Lourdes Medical Center Camden, NJ St Barnabas Medical Center Livingston, NJ–it’s about 5-10 miles from Newark–that’s where I had mine   University Hospital I believe it’s in Newark You can also be listed in some of the hospitals in NYC–St Luke’s, Mt Sanai, there’s a few. Donna If you judge people, you have no time to love them. – Mother Teresa

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CattG50 wrote: > Please tell me where you had your transplant.  My son is going to have one very > soon.  I live in New Jersey > CattG50

You people on AOL need to quote what you are responding to, otherwise no one knows what the hell you are talking about. — Robert Schuh "There can be only one!" Trane, Jimi, Bird and Jaco were gods!! Donate a kidney, save a life. Ask me about it!

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I received a transplant September 29, 1998 after waiting 3 years on the waiting list.

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I am 24 yrs old and had my 2nd kidney transplant on Dec. 22 1994, I am doing great!

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I did too, in July,’98. It’s going well, other than the weight gain. How are you doing?

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OK, and this means what? LStanley33 wrote: > I had a kidney transplant March of 96 things are great > my blood sugars are a little but thats my fault.

– Robert Schuh "There can be only one!" Trane, Jimi, Bird and Jaco were gods!! Donate a kidney, save a life. Ask me about it!

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Excuse me for asking, but how long did you wait for the first transplant, and how long did the kidney last? My youngest son, Matt, will be needing a transplant. Right now he is on dialysis at home, and actually doing quite well under the circumstances. Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -SUN4MOON wrote: > I am 24 yrs old and had my 2nd kidney transplant on Dec. 22 1994, I am doing > great!

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>I had a kidney transplant March of 96 things are great >my blood sugars are a little but thats my fault.

If you’re a diabetic already–the prednisone may make your blood sugars out of whack–that’s why you have to be extra diligant about keeping them under control now–as the diabetes will hurt the new kidney–so I respectfully suggest you try to keep them under control or you’ll damage the kidney–and need another transplant or dialysis .Do you have sweet cravings because of the prednisone? It can make you crave certain things. If you judge people, you have no time to love them. – Mother Teresa

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I recievrd one on Jan 1 1995  After waiting almost two years

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Please tell me where you had your transplant.  My son is going to have one very soon.  I live in New Jersey CattG50

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I had a kidney transplant March of 96 things are great my blood sugars are a little but thats my fault.

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I received a transplant September 29, 1998 after waiting 3 years.

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Hey all, I’m a new patient and don’t know much about the transplant process. My Doc said we’ll get into it more in a couple of weeks but if anyone has any info,(tests, time down etc.) it will be greatly appreciated. I have two older brothers who have told me I can have one of theirs if it’s a good match, but I’m finding this hard to deal with. I could never forgive myself if because of something unforseen(accident, illness) one of them wound up in the same state of affairs I’m presently in. I figure, My Problem. I’ve got to deal with It. Has anyone dealt with a similair situation? Peace, Bob Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Hi Bob, I am preparing for my 2nd transplant (sept 9) My first was in ‘88 and my sister was the donor. She is doing great and we are getting together next saturday to celebrate 11 years of mostly good health. This time around, by some miracle, My Fiance’ is to be my donor. She started testing in Jan. and got the go ahead a couple of weeks ago.  The testing involves mostly blood tests.  Towards the end of the testing, there are a couple of tests that are done on the donor to determine how well the donors kidneys work and which one they will use. My Father donated a kidney to my oldest brother in ‘75 and he is now 82 and very healthy, still does gardening, golfing, paints the house, fixes the roof. It is wonderful that you have two brothers that are willing to donate to you.  the three of you must be very close.  I wish you the best in whatever you decide to do. Fell free to write me at p…@ycrdi.com (work) or ple…@adelphia.net (home) anytime, I would be happy to share my experiences with you. Thank care Pete Leahy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -tu…@earthlink.net wrote in message <7lghav$na…@nnrp1.deja.com>… >Hey all, >I’m a new patient and don’t know much about the transplant process. My >Doc said we’ll get into it more in a couple of weeks but if anyone has >any info,(tests, time down etc.) it will be greatly appreciated. I have >two older brothers who have told me I can have one of theirs if it’s a >good match, but I’m finding this hard to deal with. I could never >forgive myself if because of something unforseen(accident, illness) one >of them wound up in the same state of affairs I’m presently in. I >figure, My Problem. I’ve got to deal with It. Has anyone dealt with a >similair situation? Peace, Bob >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Depending upon what all caused your problem in the first place, and if your brothers are prone to the same thing, IE Polycystic Kidney disease is hereditary, and can be passed to multiple children, you may or may not have occasion to get a kidney from your brothers.  If they are healthy individuals and have no other history of kidney diseases or problems, you have a great chance of getting a very good match for donation.  A living donor transplant seems to last much longer than cadaver style transplants. Must be something to do with the fact that they can move the kidney into the new home much faster than when you have to do all the tests on an unknown donor.  Must be lots of reasons for it, but I am not a doctor.  Anyway, if your brothers are healthy and able to donate, having just one kidney left behind is not a problem for most folk.  You only get one for a transplant, and the closer the match for you, the better off you are.  Less rejection probs, drugs are lower dosages, etc.  Here’s hoping you have a good match and no problems on your fraternal donor side!  It’s a great gift to donate, so definitely think about it if one or both brothers offer to donate!     Think long and hard before saying no to a chance like that!  Just my two cents worth.  It’s your decision.  Good luck!

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Hi,  will give any info I have.  12 year old daughter had transplant Dec. 98. Concerning testing for transplantation, I have read enough on internet to determine that testing is different in each area of the country.  There was a lot of blood work done to determine matching for both the receiver and giver. My husband donated his kidney to our daughter and it required a 3 day stay in hospital for testing, this is not the routine in some areas.  They will ask you up until transplant are you sure this is what you want.  They will  talk to you about your support from families, friends, emotions all of  how you are feeling. If family member wants to donate let them, life is now  none of us knows what the future holds for any of us.  You have to live in the now and they are willing to help you do that because they love you so much. Accept their love. Our daughter was in pain for about 3 days after surgery and recovery timewas about  4 weeks then she was back in school half.day. Within a month she was in school full time. My husband was out of work 2 months and most hospitals have a fund to help families of transplants so they don’t have to worry about finances.  Took about 6 months total recovery before he felt he could lift and pull like he  use to could. We had and are still having a very positive experience with our transplant. Our daughter is doing GREAT. and you will too. Try not to take all you read on the internet because some people had very bad experiences and that doesn’t mean you will have one like they did. Each person is different and each situation is different. I hope I have helped answer some of your q

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I received a kidney from  husband 8 weeks ago and it is working fine.  I now have severe pain in my knees since the transplant.  MRI, X-Rays, Bone Density test reveal nothing.  Could this be the result of the medication.  My Doctor has no answer.  Has any one else experienced this? My creatnine clearance is 1.3 Patti

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Are you currently having the prednisone dose reduced?  Sometimes, if the dose ia reduced too quickly, you can get joint pains, particularly in the knees.  If this appears to be what is happening to you, then the solution is to taper the dose at a slower rate. Dave. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Charles Nanco wrote: > I received a kidney from  husband 8 weeks ago and it is working fine.  I > now have severe pain in my knees since the transplant.  MRI, X-Rays, > Bone Density test reveal nothing.  Could this be the result of the > medication.  My Doctor has no answer.  Has any one else experienced > this? My creatnine clearance is 1.3 > Patti

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What is you uric acid numbers?.cyclosporine can increase this immensely and cause gout in the joints..this is no joke..Just a suggestion..ask your coordinator or doctor..I have gout from this and hurts like h*** "Charles Nanco" <na…@erols.com> wrote in message

news:3AD1C2E9.F91B625C@erols.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I received a kidney from  husband 8 weeks ago and it is working fine.  I > now have severe pain in my knees since the transplant.  MRI, X-Rays, > Bone Density test reveal nothing.  Could this be the result of the > medication.  My Doctor has no answer.  Has any one else experienced > this? My creatnine clearance is 1.3 > Patti

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Mara  You’re the first message I’ve seen since the 10th, I ust wanted to see if it was still working !!!   I didn’t even receive my "test" message Alan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dominique wrote: > "Alan Davis" <u…@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message > news:3ADC364F.A5DA0778@bellatlantic.net… > Alan!!  For shame! > Mara

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Hello, folks – I’ve been lurking for a little while here, and thought I’d be polite & introduce myself! I’m Corinne, and I am trying to arrange to donate a kidney to my brother who is presently on dialysis and needs a transplant. We are blood-type incompatible, and so I’ve contacted Johns Hopkins for information on their Kidney Transplant program, which specializes in helping those who want to donate, but are incompatible with their intended recipient. Anyone here have any experience with JH? The packet of information I got was impressive, and I don’t see any reason we won’t be able to do it; I just wondered if anyone had been through anything similar. Thanks!! Corinne — "Since AP parents are accused of "spoiling" their children with responsiveness, love, understanding, patience, positive interaction, intimacy and closeness, respect, and value – I have decided that spoiling ROCKS! Teaching my child that she ALWAYS deserves all of the above is the right thing to do, and I plan to own my spoiling ways. Baby Spoilers Unite!" –Jessica, iVillage AP board

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brt <yammerNOS…@noneoperamail.atall.com> wrote: >First, having been involved in two or three of their "experiments"; >I can tell you that as long as you are part of something new that >gets names on medical publications, you will be well taken care of and >well treated. This is not a slur, just the way things are as like all >facilities when they have something new and groundbreaking they don’t >like failure.

Balance this with the problems being the first to get a treatment. For my second (unsuccessful) transplant, the docs asked if I wanted to be in a study. I didn’t know to ask, but I was the first to ever be on this particular protocol. Never again. — Sam Saal         ss…@sonic.net Delete NOSPAM to reply

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I can’t tell you anything about the program you’re referring to; but received my first transplant at Hopkins and was followed there for the 19 years it lasted. First, having been involved in two or three of their "experiments"; I can tell you that as long as you are part of something new that gets names on medical publications, you will be well taken care of and well treated. This is not a slur, just the way things are as like all facilities when they have something new and groundbreaking they don’t like failure. As for inpatient/outpatient care; the doctors are top notch, but over worked and there is a shortage of floor nurses. But, when the chips are down they will save your life. All in all, for something like you talk about I would look at JHH or University of MD knowing they are excellent teaching and study facilities. But understand that when it comes to day to day non critical care; they are no better than anyone else. I got my second transplant at UMD and know a bit about them as well. brt Kidney Tx 3/79-5/98-JHH 10/99-???-UMD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"Corinne" <N…@Spam.AtAll> wrote in message news:GEfH9.221649$NH2.14991@sccrnsc01… > Hello, folks – I’ve been lurking for a little while here, and thought I’d be > polite & introduce myself! I’m Corinne, and I am trying to arrange to donate > a kidney to my brother who is presently on dialysis and needs a transplant. > We are blood-type incompatible, and so I’ve contacted Johns Hopkins for > information on their Kidney Transplant program, which specializes in helping > those who want to donate, but are incompatible with their intended > recipient. > Anyone here have any experience with JH? The packet of information I got was > impressive, and I don’t see any reason we won’t be able to do it; I just > wondered if anyone had been through anything similar. > Thanks!! > Corinne > — > "Since AP parents are accused of "spoiling" their children with > responsiveness, love, understanding, patience, positive interaction, > intimacy and closeness, respect, and value – I have decided that spoiling > ROCKS! Teaching my child that she ALWAYS deserves all of the above is the > right thing to do, and I plan to own my spoiling ways. Baby Spoilers Unite!" > –Jessica, iVillage AP board

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Corinne <N…@spam.atall> wrote: > Hello, folks – I’ve been lurking for a little while here, and thought I’d be > polite & introduce myself! I’m Corinne, and I am trying to arrange to donate > a kidney to my brother who is presently on dialysis and needs a transplant. > We are blood-type incompatible, and so I’ve contacted Johns Hopkins for > information on their Kidney Transplant program, which specializes in helping > those who want to donate, but are incompatible with their intended > recipient. > Anyone here have any experience with JH? The packet of information I got was > impressive, and I don’t see any reason we won’t be able to do it; I just > wondered if anyone had been through anything similar.

I read two of the papers on this issue. One was from JH, the other from University of Maryland (UMD). Becasue my doctor recommended UMD, I’m working with them instead of JH. It’s still not clear why he prefers UMD over JH, but I’m playing that out for now. I’m also interested in any information anyone has on it. I understanhd the protocol involves plasmapheresis to lower antibody levels. You get a plasmapheresis on non-dialysis days for two weeks then get a living related transplant if they antibody levels drop by enough. — Sam Saal         ss…@sonic.net Delete NOSPAM to reply

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I am looking for some information on transplants. A family member has recently been placed on dialysis and will be placed on list for donors.  I would like to know what is involved in testing for a match. I would appreiciate any info

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JGmvn wrote: > I am looking for some information on transplants. A family member has > recently > been placed on dialysis and will be placed on list for donors.  I > would like to > know what is involved in testing for a match. I would appreiciate any > info

       Go to http://www.transweb.org and browse through their various links. Look for references to tissue typing in particular. You first might want to look at general topics such as a)Transplant Patients b)Organ Donation: Issues & Answers c)Transplant Resources. All of these flow from the TRANSWEB homepage.         You can also go to the Usenet Newsgroup news://bit.listserv.transplant and look for instructions for their Transplant FAQ’s.  Don’t mail direct to them.  At the bottom of most messages, you will find: "For instuctions in use of and commands for TRNSPLNT" and a link. Dennis Scott

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Is there anyone out there who has heard the news my Nephrologist told me today.  He said that all anti-rejection medications will be paid for by Medicare indefinitely, as opposed to the 1 yr, 2 yr, 3 yr, restrictions in the pastl  I only had 3 months to go until Medicare ceased paying for me.  I would like this confirmed by someone before I stop pleading with all the sources that be…. to help me.  Thank to anyone who knows. Linda Carriere (Ofearth)

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It is true that some of the older drugs had serious side effects, but I had my Tx just over a year ago, take drugs twice a day, have no restrictions of foods or fluids, and have had not had any problems whatsoever. Tx is one of the few areas where you will not get good info by talking to longer term patients, who are still on old drug regimes. The latest drugs have cut rejection rates dramatically, and aside from weight control problems from the Steroids, have very little in the way of side effects. Mike. In article <199801310508.WAA00…@irish-doctors.org>, ?@?.? writes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Bonnie posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum   >http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm >Dated  : January 30, 1998 at 22:06:42 >Subject: Re: Transplant >http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/314.html >Thanks for the info Chris.  What about the drugs?  I have heard so many negative >things about them.  I wonder if life expectancy is longer having to take all of >those medications that damage the immune system so drastically.  I don’t need >any meds at all, and keep busy and healthy.  I am 41 and have felt pretty good, >but I hate the time and the limited fluids.  It gets pretty rough…. >Thanks, >Bonnie

– Mike Hoyle

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> What about the drugs?  I have heard so many negative >things about them.  I wonder if life expectancy is longer having >to take all of those medications that damage the immune system so >drastically.  I don’t need any meds at all, and keep busy and healthy.  

I can’t let this one go by, even though the person who posted it probably doesn’t read this board.   Your life expectancy after transplant is **longer** than your life expectancy under dialysis.  Dialysis maintains the body at a level barely above kidney failure.  One must deal constantly with the threat of blood clots or periotonitis.  Long term consequences include amyloidosis and bone deterioration.  Transplant carries with it the risks of all surgeries.  The immunosuppression also carries with it some risks, of course, but the immune system is not destroyed.  The body can still deal with infections, it just takes a bit longer.  If the drugs suppress the immune system too much, they are usually reduced.  IMO, transplant is the preferable treatment for ESRD (there still is no cure.)  But if one chooses dialysis, he or she should make the decision with accurate information. And if this person is taking no meds under dialysis, she is extremely unusual. No Epogen?  No Phoslo?  No Rocaltrol?  No Nephrovite? Janet Russell (Corofin…@aol.com) ————————————————— * Books are for use * Every person his or her book * * Every book, its reader * Save the time of the reader *                                               — S. R. Ranganathan * In the beginning was the word, and the word was indexed *                                                – Lynn Moncrief

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Dennis Scott posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm Dated  : February 13, 1998 at 19:09:31 Subject: Re: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/335.html I and most tx patients don’t consider the drugs to be so toxic. Current versions seem to be easily tolerated. The new drugs that will be widely available in five years will drastically reduce any risk further.  Remember, most people on dialysis die from complications of heart, etc. from dialysis–either from underlying damage by the time they get to ESRD, or by inability to stay at near ideal weights. At my weight, 5 years seemed about it.     One of the most respected persons I deal with is a RN who has lived in Japan for twenty some years and dialysed that long before choosing a related donor tx just over a year ago.     Keep your options and your mind open. Use the Net to keep informed.

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(bonnie) wrote: >bonnie posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum   >http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm >Dated  : January 18, 1998 at 10:18:40 >Subject: Transplant >http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/299.html >I have been thinking about transplant, but after studying somewhat, I feel like I’d be trading one nightmare for another.   >I’d like to hear from anyone who has had a transplant or is considering one.  How do you feel about it?  Compared to dialysis, how is it?  I do very well on dialysis, but am getting a bit tired of it after over 8 years.  I just don’t want to take any risks when I feel so great now. >Thanks is advance……

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Mary posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm Dated  : January 24, 1998 at 15:47:11 Subject: Re: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/307.html My husband is almost ready for dialysis. I would like to hear from you as to what you find out.        

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Dennis Scott posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm Dated  : January 25, 1998 at 17:57:17 Subject: Re: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/311.html I was only on dialysis for 14 months before I got my tx, and I had only done well for the last 5 months, mostly because of unreliability of my AV fistula. If you get a reasonable match, and a healthy kidney, the advantages far outweigh the occasional medical complications. I was 40, and would not have lasted long on dialysis due to weight and fluid problems. Tx’s are only an alternate treatment, not a cure. Most tx’s are happier.  Go to www.transweb.org and check links to various sites. Get a lot of information. Read the newsgroups (link from the transweb site) such as "Transplant Newsgroup" (Usenet-"bit.listserv.transplant") Good luck Dennis Scott (Kidney Tx June 06/95)

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Chris Payne posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm Dated  : January 25, 1998 at 18:54:32 Subject: Re: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/312.html I personally can’t imagine any other option.  I was recently diagnosed with ESRD, and my doctors did not recommend that I continue on dialysis the rest of my life (I am 32), as it will shorten my life expectancy.  In all other aspects I am healthy and can expect a normal life after transplant – other than taking drugs daily.  I would trade 30 seconds of drugs for 4 hours of dialysis a day.  Plus not being able to drink excessive amounts of fluids is a bummer.

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>Read the newsgroups (link from the transweb site) such >as "Transplant Newsgroup" (Usenet-"bit.listserv.transplant") >Good luck >Dennis Scott (Kidney Tx Jun

I had a similar situation with CAPD and was transplanted on 6/95 at 5:00pm. There are many Transplant sites. Use search engines with Kidney Transplantation as search topic.

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Dear Bonnie, I am a recent transplant pt. I had my transplant 6 weeks ago and am doing better than I have in 15 years.  My kidney started working on the operating table.  I have normal kidney function for the first time in 15 years.  Dialysis was not for me just like transplant may not be for you dialysis was not working for me so I’m taking my chances with the translplant I feel they all have there risks and you should research and weigh the benefits as well as the drawbacks there are both in whatever treatment you decide.  As for me I am doing wonderfully so far and I know that this could change at any time but it is worth the risk for me.  I hope this helps you somewhat if you want to talk more just let me know.  Brenda

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Bonnie posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm Dated  : January 30, 1998 at 22:06:42 Subject: Re: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/314.html Thanks for the info Chris.  What about the drugs?  I have heard so many negative things about them.  I wonder if life expectancy is longer having to take all of those medications that damage the immune system so drastically.  I don’t need any meds at all, and keep busy and healthy.  I am 41 and have felt pretty good, but I hate the time and the limited fluids.  It gets pretty rough…. Thanks, Bonnie

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bonnie wrote: > bonnie posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum > http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm > Dated  : January 18, 1998 at 10:18:40 > Subject: Transplant > http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/299.html > I have been thinking about transplant, but after studying somewhat, I feel like I’d be trading one nightmare for another. > I’d like to hear from anyone who has had a transplant or is considering one.  How do you feel about it?  Compared to dialysis, how is it?  I do very well on di > Thanks is advance……

bonnie – It can be a tough decision about a transplant, especially if you are relatively satisfied with dialysis.  I’ve had two transplants and am currently on my third course of dialysis (CAPD).  I can tell you my first tx was a lifesaver and gave me 14 years of almost normal living.  I finished college, worked, travelled and got in a lot of adventure before having to return to dialysis.  My second tx lasted 8 years but I struggled with skin problems due to the long years of immunosuppressant therapy.  I would much prefer a transplant to dialysis mostly because of the freedom in lifestyle.  Right now I am waiting for my skin to get better before trying to get on the list for a third try.  I have always been willing to take the risks but you need to examine your inner desire.  If you want it, you’ll go for it; if not that’s ok too.  As long as you can make each day meaningful, that’s all that really matters. -cindo To reply to e-mail, remove "nospam" from address.

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bonnie posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm Dated  : January 18, 1998 at 10:18:40 Subject: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/299.html I have been thinking about transplant, but after studying somewhat, I feel like I’d be trading one nightmare for another.   I’d like to hear from anyone who has had a transplant or is considering one.  How do you feel about it?  Compared to dialysis, how is it?  I do very well on dialysis, but am getting a bit tired of it after over 8 years.  I just don’t want to take any risks when I feel so great now. Thanks is advance……

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Bonnie,, I am so glad that you worte,,, I  strongly encourage everybody that needs a transplant and is a good canidate to have the transplant. I realize the decison is a scarey and hard to make but it really changes ones lifestyle. I had a kidney/pancrease transplant in 1995f and am doing wonderfully. There are always risks of a transplant,lower immune system, and soemtimes rejection episodes,but these risks in my opion by far out wiegh dailysis.  I am not tied down anymore to treatments, I don’t have the strict diet restrictions that I had on dialysis, my energy as well as self being has improved drasticly.  For the first time in my life I was able to go on vacation and not worry about shots.  It was wondrful. This is my second transplant and if I were to compare it to dailysis I would do it agian in a heartbeat without even thinking. As far as the risks of rejection episodes, they are always their,,but,,that doesnt mean that you would lose your transplanted kidney the sucsses rates of being able to save the episode are very well.  I have had my transplant 2 1/2 years and have had no problems with it.  the Doctors have lowed my meds down and am doing good with that.  They are improving the medications all the time. I know it is a hard decision to make, trust me I know I have been there twice, but like I said, I would do it agian in a heatbeat. Good luck to you in making your decision, I am sure it will be the right one for you.  Feel free to write me with any questions you have

Have a Good Day,,CHERYL

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I am new  here.  I have been on peritoneal dialysis at home for abut a year and a half. Before that, I was on hemodialysis for abut a year. This morning, the transplant center called and informed me that I have been medically approved for a transplant.  While I understand that each transplant center is different, I would like to know what can I expect if and when I am notified that a kidney is ready? If there is anyone out there who has experience in this, I would appreciate a response. thank you, Robert Burgess

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You need to talk to your transplant co-ordinator and they can give you a general idea. My dad was on the Wisconsin transplant list, then was put on hold when he had triple-bypass and unknown infections running through his body. As of today, he back on the transplant list and they are estimating 2 years from now (6 mos. ago it was an 18 mo. wait, so it’s increasing). I wish you the best. Sue — Please visit http://www.somethinspecial.com for great candles & aromatherapy, fast shipping & reliable service! "Mike from Ottawa" <m…@tikacanoe.on.ca> wrote in message news:3gr39s41g3crmqahprg6k4p1el047das9j@4ax.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:16:15 -0700, "Robert Burgess" > <bobby…@uswest.net> wrote: > >I am new  here.  I have been on peritoneal dialysis at home for abut a year > >and a half. Before that, I was on hemodialysis for abut a year. > >This morning, the transplant center called and informed me that I have been > >medically approved for a transplant.  While I understand that each > >transplant center is different, I would like to know what can I expect if > >and when I am notified that a kidney is ready? > >If there is anyone out there who has experience in this, I would appreciate > >a response. > The waiting time varies, but it’s often between 1 and 3 years.  My SO > had a cadaveric transplant on 3 January 2000, here in Ottawa, Ontario, > Canada.  We were called at home, and went to the hospital within the > hour.  The operation lasted 3 hours, and she went home in only 7 days. > Her new kidney began working immediately, and creatinine dropped from > 900 during CCPD to about 72 (that’s 10.2 and 0.8 in US measurements). > At the hospital, she was kept on a general ward for post-operation > patients.  They had her on a morphine pump and a couple of bags of > saline solution.  The operation left about a 9" scar, which is below > her navel. > She saw a nutritionist and a pharmacist before leaving hospital.  Once > home, it floored her a bit to be left with a bag of drugs after having > it all doled out by hospital staff.  We figured it out by just > starting with what she needed for a day. > The donor kidney was CMV+ and she is CMV-, so they’ve put her on > gancyclovir for 3 months.  The drug regimen at this hospital is Neoral > (cyclosporine), Cellcept (MMF) and prednisone.  They like to keep > their patients on prednisone for life, although eventually it’s taken > every 2nd day.  Prednisone can cause a lot of problems when taken > long-term, so it would be interesting to see what your doctors are > prescribing.  Many recent studies indicate that it’s best to be > carefully weaned off of prednisone between 6 months and 3 years > post-transplant.  Other older studies contradict that. > The first few months are tough, as you get accustomed to high dosages > of immunosuppressants and heal from the surgery.  Everyone says it > then gets easier and that they don’t miss dialysis at all, so bear > with it. > If you’re interested, you might also want to join the TRNSPLNT > listserver group.  You receive e-mails from the group (about a dozen > per day).  Or you can see the mirror on the bit.listserv.transplant > newsgroup.  You can get more info on them at > http://www.concentric.net/~Holloway/ > — > To send me an e-mail, first > remove the watercraft from > my address

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bonnie posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm Dated  : February 18, 1998 at 20:01:56 Subject: Re: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/339.html Hi Mary: I hope your husband is doing well.  From what others are saying, tranplant is a better way to go.  I still feel somewhat tentative, but as I get more information, hopefully I’ll be able to make an informed decision. God bless you and your husband in your decision and your life.  

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Michael Lee posted the following article in the  Hemodialysis Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/hemo.htm Dated  : February 22, 1998 at 22:40:07 Subject: Re: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/hemo/355.html There are no other options. I have heard many people attempt to justify staying on dialysis because of frustration and fear.  The transplant process is no cake walk.  There are times when you will question if it is worth it.  After you stabalize and begin a routine with your meds and behavior you wil never look at Dialysis as a positive way of life.  After my transplant I went back to school and really began to cherish the things I was unable to do on dialysis. .

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Jean posted the following article in the  Patients Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/patient.htm Dated  : February 23, 1998 at 09:40:40 Subject: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/patient/511.html Does anyone know of a forum for transplant patients?  I am most anxious to discuss post-transplant issues with other transplant patients. Thanks for any help.

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Liz posted the following article in the  Patients Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/patient.htm Dated  : February 24, 1998 at 16:06:58 Subject: Re: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/patient/518.html Jean, I don’t know of any transplant forums but my husband has been transplanted for 6 months and we would love to hear from you and discuss post transplant. The e mail is sto…@nbnet.nb.ca

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Jane posted the following article in the  Patients Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/patient.htm Dated  : February 24, 1998 at 18:39:52 Subject: Re: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/patient/524.html TRIO (Transplant Recipients International Organization) has a web-site that you might be interested in checking out: www.primenet.com/~trio/ Depending on where you are located, there may be a chapter in your area.  I attend a chapter that meets once a month.  While the group is made up of a variety of transplant recipients (including heart, liver, kidney and kidney/pancreas), we have often spent time discussing complications, meds, donor thank-you letters, etc.. I had a kidney/pancreas transplant six months ago.  Since then, my experiences of complications include ATN, reaction(development of antibodies) to OKT3 which infiltrated my lungs, severe GI bleed which required cardioversion (along with 6 units of blood), and CMV which perforated my large intestine.  But, through it all, my organs survived!!  Feel free to email me if you would like (ja…@gene.com). -Jane

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In article <199802250140.SAA19…@irish-doctors.org>, ja…@gene.com (Jane) wrote: > Jane posted the following article in the  Patients Forum   > http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/patient.htm > Dated  : February 24, 1998 at 18:39:52 > Subject: Re: Transplant > http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/patient/524.html > TRIO (Transplant Recipients International Organization) has a web-site

that you might be interested in checking out: www.primenet.com/~trio/ > Depending on where you are located, there may be a chapter in your

area.  I attend a chapter that meets once a month.  While the group is made up of a variety of transplant recipients (including heart, liver, kidney and kidney/pancreas), we have often spent time discussing complications, meds, donor thank-you letters, etc.. > I had a kidney/pancreas transplant six months ago.  Since then, my

experiences of complications include ATN, reaction(development of antibodies) to OKT3 which infiltrated my lungs, severe GI bleed which required cardioversion (along with 6 units of blood), and CMV which perforated my large intestine.  But, through it all, my organs survived!! Feel free to email me if you would like (ja…@gene.com). > -Jane

There is a group – bit.listserve.transplant – I used to read it on Newswatcher, but it’s no longer available there. Now I read it either on Dejanews or one Ifound called Freenews, or something like that. I found it on the web just by typing in "transplant" into metasearch. It’s very good. You can also subscribe and receive it all by e-mail.  - Pat

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> There is a group – bit.listserve.transplant – I used to read it on > Newswatcher, but it’s no longer available there. Now I read it either on > Dejanews or one Ifound called Freenews, or something like that. I found it > on the web just by typing in "transplant" into metasearch. It’s very good. > You can also subscribe and receive it all by e-mail.  - Pat

 Here’s the url for the transplant group:   http://cgi.feedme.org:8080/cgi-bin/feedme/s?bit.listserv.transplant       -Pat

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Dennis Scott posted the following article in the  Patients Forum   http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/patient.htm Dated  : February 27, 1998 at 19:13:22 Subject: Re: Transplant http://forums.dialysis.net/renal/messages/patient/545.html The actual transplant newsgroup is on Usenet. You can access it through several means. An all purpose general posting is thru a link that you can catch via  http://www.transweb.org   Browse the links there for transplant related sites.  Dialysis patients could try their link to RENALNET. If you can access it, try directly                news://bit.listserv.transplant Please note that this is moderated newsgroup.  You should first submit postings to  TRNSP…@wuvmd.wustl.edu Most messages have a link at the end to find directions on how to use the newsgroup. There is also a subscription list for the Australian Dialysis & Transplant Group that is very UNMODERATED that you can access thru the Transweb site.

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hi im mark my dater is 15 and in kidney failure me just got are translife paket we hope that my wife can be a doner my wife is michele my dater is jacquie when we got this paket it sems lick my famly fellapartit hit home this is some wyilled stuff but ithink im           O+if i can help you plece E-mail me or if you can just chat whith my wife i whoud be thankfill to you                                 mark       E-mail   mrathm8434

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Barbara posted the following article in the Patients Support Forum http://brumley.com/renal/patientboard.html Dated  : October 25, 1999 at 18:53:14 Subject: Re: polycystic kidney disease http://brumley.com/renal/patientmessages/5689.html Dear fellow-sufferer, I too have had polycystic, and I say "have had" because I no longer have my kidneys. The removal of both kidneys, however, cures your disease.  Now all you need is a new working kidney. In a nutshell:  polycystic is a hereditary disease, and there is a 50% chance for each offspring to inherit this disease.  We were the lucky ones!  Eventually the cysts will supress your kidney function and you will need a transplant.  In the meantime, many are forced to do dialysis for some time– how cruelsome!  The good news, however, is that polycystic patients tend to do best with a new kidney because we took care of the problem, and otherwise the patient is healthy. So hold your head and hopes up high;  I hope that you can get a transplant as soon as possible, and I wish you a happy life with your second chance at that life.

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Ken posted the following article in the Patients Support Forum http://brumley.com/renal/patientboard.html Dated  : October 22, 1999 at 21:29:03 Subject: Re: polycystic kidney disease http://brumley.com/renal/patientmessages/5658.html You can go to the PKR foundation site at  www.kumc.edu/pkrf They have all sorts or info that will help you out to learn more about PKD.

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Ms. Paksima, You wrote:

Dear Joseph/Paulette — The project i am working on is about illegal sale/brokering of organs.  We do not plan to cover issues of dialysis. Thank you for your comments and good luck. Jamie They are interrelated.  You can’t have organ sales without someone to sell them to (you know, the law of supply and demand) and the person to sell them to is MOST LIKELY on dialysis.  If there was not such a long waiting time on dialysis, if the complications of it were not so profound, the waiting times for a tranplant not so extended, there would be no NEED for people to even CONSIDER purchasing a kidney.  Believe me, unless you’ve been down the dialysis road and you know what it feels like then please don’t discount it as not being part of the story of organ purchasing.  It is co-related. "Wherever the palm of my hand goes, the back of it goes, too", thats how co-related it is.  By just focusing on the organ sales, you are only focusing on one half of the story. Judanne

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>MS research gets money from the >gov’t, but they are very very very close to a cure.   >Can’t say the same for us.

Too bad you don’t have polycystic kidney disease, with its team of crackerjack lobbyists.  The Polycystic Kidney Research Foundation funds its own research into finding a cure for PKD.  When the Clinton administration recommended only a token increase for the funding of the National Institutes of Health, including a *decrease* for research on kidney disease, the PKRF went to work and persuaded the House leaders not only to reverse the decrease but to increase funding to the NIDDK 14%.  The appropriations bill currently in the Senate also establishes four PKD research centers at $1million apiece.  Total appropriation is $1.13 billion.  The increase is $133 million.   Finding a cure for PKD will require lucky breaks as well as funding.  We got a lucky break when they found the family in Portugal which allowed them to isolate the PKD1 gene a decade sooner than anyone expected.  With this continued funding, we are even closer to a cure.  It won’t come in time to help anyone currently in kidney failure from their PKD, but it will help the children. Those of us who already have ESRD must thank instead the masterful lobbyists from what is now the AAKP who persuaded Congress in the 1970s to have Medicare pay for dialysis for anyone who needed it, and who later got Congress also to cover transplants under Medicare.  People under 65 with Parkinson’s don’t get any help from Medicare. There’s nothing to stop you from working with the AAKP or with the organization for your own form of kidney disease to increase funding for research into kidney disease.  Writing letters to your Senators and Representatives in support of the appropriations bill is a start.  What can be even more effective over the long run is working on the local campaigns of the politicians you admire.  Very often the diseases that get funding are those that happen to affect someone known to the congressperson who introduces the legislation.   Janet

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trickster said: Yeah, earlier this week Michael J. Fox was on the Today show talking about MS.  It seems as if they are 2 million dollars away from a cure.  MS research gets money from the gov’t, but they are very very very close to a cure.   Can’t say the same for us. Are you sure he wasn’t talking about Parkinson’s Disease? Cause that’s what he has — but I suppose he could have been talking about MS. <shrug> ****************************** *Michelle* "You were always a bastard.  Now you’re an enlightened one" – Simon Birch

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Cindi wrote: > Ahhhh, tsk, tsk, Jamie.  As usual.  The sensational stuff that grabs headlines <snip> > Anyone thought about Montel Williams?  He seems truly interested in HELPING  people.

Hell Yeah, and HE’S not feeling well either. ..*s* I KNOW he’ll help us!!!!

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Cindi wrote: > Hi Cindi, > Ahhhh, tsk, tsk, Jamie.

 Yeah really, if he set in our seat for a week, he would change his mind. But we tried and is was worth a try.  As usual.  The sensational stuff that grabs > headlines

 Yeah or it’s a famous person.  (and not even new-I’ve seen this subject covered on television > before), instead of the true picture of what thousands of people endure each > day while waiting for a better chance at life.  Trust me, after a few weeks > on this newsgroup, you’d change your mind on which subject is more > important. > Well, this doesn’t surprise me, but sure does sadden me. > Anyone thought about Montel Williams?  He seems truly interested in HELPING people.

Yeah and he has M S doesn’t he?  My Brother-in-law died from MS. But the MS  made him so crazy from so much pain for so many years, he shot himself in the neck. He was aiming for his head, but the shaking of his hand made him miss. The cornor said it took him a hour atleast to die. He was alone and it wasn’t a pretty sight. Sorry, I went off in another world there for a minute. Paulette – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Cindi > F. Joseph Brown <Frat…@compuserve.com> wrote in message > news:7ti7nl$ccf$1@ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com… > > Dear Joseph/Paulette — > > The project i am working on is about illegal sale/brokering > > of organs.  We do not plan to cover issues of dialysis. > > Thank you for your comments and good luck. > > Jamie > >         Because e-mail can be altered electronically, > >         the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed.

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> Cindi wrote: >  As usual.  The sensational stuff that grabs > > headlines Paulette Skallerup then wrote: >  Yeah or it’s a famous person.

Yeah, earlier this week Michael J. Fox was on the Today show talking about MS.  It seems as if they are 2 million dollars away from a cure.  MS research gets money from the gov’t, but they are very very very close to a cure.   Can’t say the same for us.

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Ahhhh, tsk, tsk, Jamie.  As usual.  The sensational stuff that grabs headlines (and not even new-I’ve seen this subject covered on television before), instead of the true picture of what thousands of people endure each day while waiting for a better chance at life.  Trust me, after a few weeks on this newsgroup, you’d change your mind on which subject is more important. Well, this doesn’t surprise me, but sure does sadden me. Anyone thought about Montel Williams?  He seems truly interested in HELPING people. Cindi F. Joseph Brown <Frat…@compuserve.com> wrote in message news:7ti7nl$ccf$1@ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Dear Joseph/Paulette — > The project i am working on is about illegal sale/brokering > of organs.  We do not plan to cover issues of dialysis. > Thank you for your comments and good luck. > Jamie >         Because e-mail can be altered electronically, >         the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed.

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Cindi wrote: >Anyone thought about Montel Williams?  He seems truly interested in HELPING >people.

I was personally thinking about Oprah or even Rosie.  They are very caring people and might be worth while to check into. ~Jackie ESRD~1986 Hemo~3 months CAPD~2 months K TX~12-96 CCPD~May-1999

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F. Joseph Brown wrote: > Dear Joseph/Paulette — > The project i am working on is about illegal sale/brokering of organs.  We do not plan to cover issues of dialysis. > Thank you for your comments and good luck. > Jamie

I think A&E did this program already…remember when I told you guys about the guy who finds organs for Americans in Belgium, Austria and (I forget the other country).  Those countries have implied consent.  I wrote about it (I don’t remember his name (but you’ll find it in my post).  Usually the insurance doesn’t cover international transplants and the person has to come out of pocket along with the brokers fee.   Big *F* deal it’s legal in those countries.  It almost sounds like shaking your finger at an American druggie who decides to live in Amsterdam. Only a few are impacted with this, Medicare paying shelling out dough affects millions.

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Dear Joseph/Paulette — The project i am working on is about illegal sale/brokering of organs.  We do not plan to cover issues of dialysis.   Thank you for your comments and good luck. Jamie         Because e-mail can be altered electronically,         the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed.

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